03-11-2019, 11:52 AM | #1 |
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Does Trained by a Master include shields?
Half penalty for rapid strikes and multiple parries for all weapon and unarmed skills.
Does that include shields? Do I get half penalty to block a second time? Do I get half penalty to rapid strike with a shield bash? |
03-11-2019, 01:38 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Does Trained by a Master include shields?
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03-11-2019, 02:10 PM | #3 |
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Re: Does Trained by a Master include shields?
IIRC you can only Block once per turn.
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03-11-2019, 02:28 PM | #4 |
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Re: Does Trained by a Master include shields?
Yes, You can't even try, and Yes as the rules are written. Yeah, it's kind of confusing, the rules for multiple attacks, multiple parries, U parry, when stuff becomes unready etc. often seem a bit inconsistent, and changing some of them between 3e and 4e didn't help as much as it should have. But sure, if you are using some rule variant that lets you attempt multiple blocks, I don't see any reason to treat shield blocks any differently from any other parry with something equally awkward to swing around.
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03-11-2019, 02:32 PM | #5 |
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Re: Does Trained by a Master include shields?
As an optional rule, Martial Arts allows multiple blocks (p. 123) at a penalty, which Weapon Master that includes a shield does reduce.
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03-11-2019, 05:59 PM | #6 |
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03-11-2019, 06:35 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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Re: Does Trained by a Master include shields?
All the references to Multiple Blocks say Weapons Master, and don't mention Trained by a Master, so I'd say TBAM doesn't give the benefits there. However, a shield bash is an attack, and Trained by a Master does generally reduce Rapid Strike penalties for all attacks, so I'd say that applies.
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03-12-2019, 01:19 PM | #8 | |
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Location: Northeast Kansas
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Re: Does Trained by a Master include shields?
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Damage Bonus Improved Defaults So for simplicity, I wouldn't add Iterative Blocks with shields and cloaks. I'd just say TBaM covers it. But that's a GM question. |
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