10-12-2018, 01:53 PM | #1 | |
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Mounted Combat: Leaning
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10-12-2018, 06:43 PM | #2 | |
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It is an important "ability" of a rider, in any case. (If they couldn't choose a facing and hex on the mount each turn, that would be big problem for them in combat.) Assuming you take it that the mount is what is restricted by engagement, while the rider despite engagement can pick a hex on the mount to be in each turn, that's sort of a mobility advantage when engaged, compared to being on foot. |
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10-12-2018, 08:38 PM | #3 | ||
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The only advantage I can see from being able to "lean" is that you can avoid two side attackers by "shifting in the saddle". If you're in the "back seat", you avoid attacks from the two front-most side hexes. In the "front seat", you avoid attacks from the two rear-most side hexes. I don't see any of that as an "important advantage" because you could just as easily avoid attacks from those two hexes with the horses movement. Last edited by platimus; 10-12-2018 at 08:54 PM. |
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10-12-2018, 11:24 PM | #4 | |
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10-13-2018, 06:09 PM | #5 |
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Re: Mounted Combat: Leaning
Ah. Hadn't considered that. Thanks!
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10-14-2018, 01:11 AM | #6 | |
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Still don't see an "important advantage". Nothing significant is lost by ignoring the "leaning" option. |
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10-14-2018, 09:42 AM | #7 | ||
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10-14-2018, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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Re: Mounted Combat: Leaning
If you ignore the verbage about "leaning" but still allow the rider to attack into any of the 6 hexes adjacent to the side of the horse with a weapon of reach 1 and include the hex directly in front of the horse with a weapon of reach/range greater than 1, nothing significant is lost.
And your point about being outnumbered is irrelevant. If you're on horse-back and the horse is totally surrounded, you're screwed anyway - whether you can "lean" or not. Last edited by platimus; 10-14-2018 at 12:21 PM. |
10-14-2018, 03:18 PM | #9 | |
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Which hex the rider is in and which direction he's facing has many effects on whom he can attack or be attacked by, and what modifiers apply to the rolls. Ranged attacks, spells, facing effects on the roll to hit, and on shield coverage. Whether or not the attacker can reach or be reached by which hexes with a one or two hex weapon (or a ranged attack) are different. Whether the rider is affected by area spells. Basically all the rules in the system that care about the hex and facing of a figure. Surrender if you think so, but I have played out many battles where mounted fighters were surrounded by quite a few figures, in which the outcome was not at all certain, and the specifics of facing and so on were critical to determining what happened, and made for some pretty interesting and tense battles. |
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10-14-2018, 05:31 PM | #10 |
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Re: Mounted Combat: Leaning
Well, this is how I'm gonna play it:
Rider is always facing forward on horse for purposes of determining his rear and side hexes. Rider with reach 1 can attack into the 3 adjacent hexes on each side of the horse and the hex directly in front of the horse with reach/range 2. No leaning and no bothering with optional facing. This actually seems more "realistic" to me. |
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