10-01-2017, 11:29 AM | #21 |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
Considering Lifting ST is what's needed for grappling, I'm not sure she has Striking ST, I think she has a lot of ST period
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10-01-2017, 05:04 PM | #22 |
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10-01-2017, 05:12 PM | #23 | |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
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GURPS Basic gives a +1 or +2 depending on skill and level. Technical Grappling gives a bonus using different levels.
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10-01-2017, 07:01 PM | #24 | |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
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Some folks put her roughly at Captain America's strength, due to having received a similar "super-soldier" treatment in the comics (in the comics, she was born in or before 1945, depending on if the story has her an infant, toddler, or teenager at the end of WWII during the post-German-surrender Pacific campaigns). Unlike Bucky Barnes/the Winter Soldier (who was defrosted to teach her combat), Nat didn't undergo cryostasis in the comics.
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10-01-2017, 07:08 PM | #25 | |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
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Matching stats like those has a problem in Gurps because of the effect of Extra Effort and Will as the Widow has an exceptional Will. I'm afraid you're in "pick a reasonable looking number" area possibly based on what you think she can lift without Extra Effort. <shrug> Maybe a 13.
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10-02-2017, 03:21 PM | #26 | |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
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Movie!Widow is not a recipient of any serum. Comics!Widow is, with details retconned in as needed to keep the sliding time scale solvent.
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10-04-2017, 03:03 PM | #27 | |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
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Better to just ignore the fussy details and not constantly retcon to satisfy the condensed timeline of the real world if they don't want to do a full retcon like DC does at least every 20 years if not more often. It all starts very contrived.
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10-04-2017, 05:02 PM | #28 | |
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(Say it with me: "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!")
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10-04-2017, 05:24 PM | #29 |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
But there is a massive difference in how Vietnam vets were treated by civilians at large as Afghanistan. Still not that well but a big one in terms of scale of crappiness.
But PTSD is PTSD regardless of the war, decade, or century.
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10-04-2017, 05:48 PM | #30 |
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Re: Trying to make Black Widow
However, Tony Stark had his Vietnamese adventure as a civilian consultant, and didn't have the experience of frontline combat or guerrilla warfare. And he was back from Nam and flying around in an iron suit early enough so that the anti-war protests hadn't really taken off. I think he was there when Kennedy was still in the White House, and buddy buddy with the South Vietnamese Catholic despots, and anticommunism was a widespread American attitude even among liberals.
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