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Old 09-29-2019, 05:37 PM   #1
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Default Doubt on Armour divisor (Firearms)

Hi,
i don't understand in this string (B278):
6 Revolver, .38 2d-1 pi 2 120/1,500 2/0.2 3 6(3i) 8 -2 2 $400 3

(3i) what does it mean "i" ?

...and:

6 Auto Pistol, 9mm 2d+2 pi 2 150/1,850 2.4/0.4 3 8+1(3) 9 -2 2 $350 3

Why 8+1 under "Shot"?

Thanks for patience
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:40 PM   #2
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Hi,
i don't understand in this string (B278):
6 Revolver, .38 2d-1 pi 2 120/1,500 2/0.2 3 6(3i) 8 -2 2 $400 3

(3i) what does it mean "i" ?

...and:

6 Auto Pistol, 9mm 2d+2 pi 2 150/1,850 2.4/0.4 3 8+1(3) 9 -2 2 $350 3

Why 8+1 under "Shot"?

Thanks for patience
Regards!
(3i) means you need to take 3 turns per bullet to reload it.

8+1 means 8 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber.
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:41 PM   #3
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3i means each shot is loaded individually and takes 3 seconds per shot.

8 +1 means 8 shots in the magazine, but you can have 1 shot chambered already.

Has nothing to with armor.
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:51 PM   #4
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1. The 'i' stands for "individual", and means that the weapon is reloaded one shot at a time, each round taking the time given. (Normally, the time is to reload an entire magazine.) See B270, under "Shots", or B373.

2. The n+1 notation for Shots means that the weapon can carry an extra round in the chamber. The reload time restores a full magazine of n shots. But you could also take more time to load that one extra round individually, for a total of n+1. The rule appears on HT88. (And despite my description, that paragraph doesn't mention any extra loading time.) I'm not sure where it's located in Basic.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:56 AM   #5
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Thank you all for good answers!
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Old 09-30-2019, 08:18 AM   #6
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I'm not sure where it's located in Basic.
I couldn't find any reference in the Basic Set to the + notation for chambered rounds, even though there are weapons in the Basic Set that use it.
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Old 09-30-2019, 09:18 AM   #7
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I also didn't see a rule for how long it takes to load that extra round, whether in Basic or HT.

(If I had to make one up, I'd just use the typical revolver stat of "3i" for that lone round, whether that's actually chambering it on its own, or -- having loaded a magazine and worked the weapon to chamber that first round -- pulling the magazine, inserting an extra round, and re-inserting it. Which sounds a bit generous...)
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:05 AM   #8
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I also didn't see a rule for how long it takes to load that extra round, whether in Basic or HT.
You probably wouldn't.

The exceptions:
  1. You replace a magazine before the gun is empty (though the magazine may be empty). The chambered round remains chambered. Doesn't take any extra time.
  2. Pump and lever action guns - anything with "+1" in shots and "i" in loading time. It's as simple as filling the magazine, chambering a round, and putting one more round in the magazine. Uses the standard time for loading one additional round.
  3. You insert a magazine, work the action, remove the magazine, insert an additional round, and reinsert the magazine. Or, you chamber a round manually and insert a full magazine. Time largely irrelevant, as you would never do this during action that calls for second by second resolution.
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:12 AM   #9
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Hi,
i don't understand in this string (B278):
6 Revolver, .38 2d-1 pi 2 120/1,500 2/0.2 3 6(3i) 8 -2 2 $400 3

(3i) what does it mean "i" ?
Armor divisor only ever appears immediately after damage dice. 3d(2) pi, for example.
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:30 AM   #10
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You probably wouldn't.

The exceptions:
  1. You replace a magazine before the gun is empty (though the magazine may be empty). The chambered round remains chambered. Doesn't take any extra time.
  2. Pump and lever action guns - anything with "+1" in shots and "i" in loading time. It's as simple as filling the magazine, chambering a round, and putting one more round in the magazine. Uses the standard time for loading one additional round.
  3. You insert a magazine, work the action, remove the magazine, insert an additional round, and reinsert the magazine. Or, you chamber a round manually and insert a full magazine. Time largely irrelevant, as you would never do this during action that calls for second by second resolution.
Option 1 is IIRC known as a “tactical reload,” and unless the setting follows video game logic with regards to ammo (or you have tech or a trait that lets you do so), can quickly end up with a bag full of partial magazines if you do it too often. In a setting with video game logic, of course, it’s a great option when you get to cover or there’s otherwise a lull in the fighting.
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