06-17-2019, 09:35 AM | #1 |
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Two Weapons - Weapon Expertise - Defend
1) If a hero possesses both of these Talents and chooses the Defend option do foes need 5/DX to hit them with melee attacks and the hero receives the benefit of stopping 4 hits if they do somehow manage to strike the hero?
2) In any case, the foes are not also at a -1 DX to hit, correct? (i.e. the 5th die is instead of the -1 DX) ITL p.41 3) Irrespective of Talents, the Defend option doesn't care about whether the melee attack is coming from the side or the rear, so such attacks can still be parried? A 32-point character with ST 9 DX12 IQ 11 can begin with this capability. |
06-17-2019, 11:37 AM | #2 | |
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2) I would say yes, the foes are -1 in all cases (at least of melee attacks through a front facing). This benefit is not associated with a particular action. 3) The Two Weapons parry is not explained in much detail but sounds interchangeable with an attack. Given that shield defensive protection is influenced by facing and attacks can go to only one facing that the parry only counts vs. your front facing. |
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06-17-2019, 11:42 AM | #3 |
Join Date: May 2019
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Re: Two Weapons - Weapon Expertise - Defend
Nice question.
I think the -1 DX to all attacks is just there all the time 'as long as they have the weapon in hand'. If they take the defend option which would normally be 4D to hit, it will become 5D because of Weapon Master. But Defend is not Parry (the special Two Weapons Option) so they would NOT get 4pts of armour. The grey area for me is, well can they defend with their main weapon and either parry or attack with their second? Its not clear IMO. So a generous GM might give you two points of armour, or a DX-4 attack? It feels like they could take the Two Weapons option (b) and instead of attack and parry, do a defend and parry? On the basis that their off hand weapon is basically a shield in that situation? So I think I would allow defend with 2pts of armour against hand attacks from the front, with front hand attackers needing to roll 5D on DX-1 to hit. Pretty good! |
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06-17-2019, 11:50 AM | #5 |
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Re: Two Weapons - Weapon Expertise - Defend
Actually I think you are right. Or not (sorry!)
The new ITL has modified the double parry option for Two Weapons to include an extra die to hit. So take the double parry option and you get: 4D to hit, at -1 DX, with 4 points of armour. Or take defend and get: 5D to hit at -1DX, with no points of armour. And with the defend option, argue with your GM about the off-hand weapon acting as a 'shield'? Last edited by MikMod; 06-17-2019 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Got it wrong! |
06-17-2019, 11:51 AM | #6 |
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06-17-2019, 12:46 PM | #7 | |
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06-17-2019, 12:56 PM | #8 | |
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P41 ITL: "(c) parry with both weapons, adding an extra die to attempts to hit you and stopping 4 points of damage" That is a change from the old ITL, which is what tripped me up. Last edited by MikMod; 06-17-2019 at 01:01 PM. Reason: Added quote. |
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06-17-2019, 05:09 PM | #9 |
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Re: Two Weapons - Weapon Expertise - Defend
You're right! My eyes just skipped right over that change. I've been playing this game too long to keep track of what was old vs. what is new vs. what I've made up...
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06-17-2019, 05:48 PM | #10 |
Join Date: May 2019
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