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Old 02-01-2013, 05:51 AM   #1
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It has been made clear to me that a Wizard may Charm a monster using cards in hand or cards in play. After learning that, it prompted this questionable scenario:

Wizard is in combat against 2 monsters.

Wizard has 3 or more cards in their hand and Charms monster A.

Could Wizard then use Charm a second time on monster B granted they had enough cards in play to do so?

Edit: Whoops, I just reread the Wizard card and am pretty sure there is no chance of this being legal, and am not sure I was correct about using cards in play to Charm to begin with. This game has a way of wrapping my mind in a twist!

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:17 AM   #2
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Yep, good work for catching yourself in the edit. The Flight Spell discards can come from your hand or the table, but Charm Spell only discards the cards in your hand.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:26 AM   #3
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Edit: Whoops, I just reread the Wizard card and am pretty sure there is no chance of this being legal, and am not sure I was correct about using cards in play to Charm to begin with. This game has a way of wrapping my mind in a twist!
Good call, otherwise the three card minimum wouldn't make sense. You COULD discard more than three cards in play to activate Charm even with an empty hand but why would anyone do that?
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:55 PM   #4
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You COULD discard more than three cards in play to activate Charm even with an empty hand but why would anyone do that?
No, you can't. The Wizard Charm Spell is clear: you have to discard at least three cards from your hand.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:49 PM   #5
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Good call, otherwise the three card minimum wouldn't make sense. You COULD discard more than three cards in play to activate Charm even with an empty hand but why would anyone do that?
Not ever. The charm spell can only be activated by discarding your entire hand (which must contain a minimum of 3 cards). Though the 3 card minimum is relatively new, the ability has never, ever, allowed for cards in play to be used to power it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:49 PM   #6
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Not ever. The charm spell can only be activated by discarding your entire hand (which must contain a minimum of 3 cards). Though the 3 card minimum is relatively new, the ability has never, ever, allowed for cards in play to be used to power it.
That's right, I was just saying how ridiculous the three card minimum clause would be if you could discard from items in play. No one would ever choose to discard more than the minimum. Therefore, the discards must be from hand only.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:33 AM   #7
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Q. Okay, I gotcha. But what if I have to discard a card, do I discard from my hand? Or in play?
A. If you have to discard and it doesn't specify from where (e.g., the Wizard's charm spell) then you can choose from any of the cards you possess..
I feel like this may be some of what's causing confusion on this issue since this entry is wrong. It hasn't been updated to the new wording of the charm ability.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #8
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The wording could use improvement, but it's not wrong -- the Charm spell is (and always has been) an example of an ability that does specify a source for the discards, which is why the parenthetical falls where it does.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:12 PM   #9
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Fair enough. I took it to indicate that the charm spell was an example of something that didn't indicate where you discard from because of the placement.
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