Hiking and movement per day seems wrong.

GMB · 03-03-2017, 05:38 PM

In the GURPS 4th ed Campaigns book (3rd printing) pg351 reads:

"The distance in miles you can march in one day, under ideal conditions, equals 10 x move."

This means if I am unencumbered and on AVERAGE (NO modifier) terrain and my MOVE is 5 (DEX 10) I can march 50 miles per day!

I researched this and just about everywhere I look the best of us in ideal conditions (NORMAL fit folks NOT hyper-trained special forces etc. that have nearly no limit!) the max distance in miles per day traveled in general is 20 to maybe 30 miles per day.

The multiplier here should be 4 NOT 10.

Any comments?

Am I doing this wrong?

Help.

BTW after 2 decades of playing GURPS it still is my go to system for detailed, open system play. GURPS is the dice!

sir_pudding · 03-03-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB

I researched this and just about everywhere

Then why start a new thread on a subject that has been done to death in at least two prior uber-threads?

At any rate, have you considered using the rules in High-Tech instead?

GMB · 03-03-2017, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Then why start a new thread on a subject that has been done to death in at least two prior uber-threads?

At any rate, have you considered using the rules in High-Tech instead?

This is a huge forum and I did search and found no corresponding information.

My research, I should have stated, was not GURPS related, but REAL world. Maybe I should have been clear about that. Sorry.

I am interested in friendly comments regarding my observation. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Flyndaran · 03-03-2017, 05:46 PM

I don't think he meant that he researched everywhere, just that everywhere he researched gave much lower numbers.

Though I can't imagine how someone that joined in 2005 failed to see those emotionally intense threads.

Edit: ninja-ed by the OP.

Anaraxes · 03-03-2017, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB

This is a huge forum and I did search and found no corresponding information.

I generally like to use Google to search the forum, at least for anything complex. Add "site:forums.sjgames.com" to your search terms.

Frex: site:forums.sjgames.com Hiking

The first page has a number of past threads that have some discussion.

If you want to find Krommquotes, it generally serves to throw "Kromm" after the site: term, coupled with a bit of poking into the results.

GMB · 03-03-2017, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran

I don't think he meant that he researched everywhere, just that everywhere he researched gave much lower numbers.

Though I can't imagine how someone that joined in 2005 failed to see those emotionally intense threads.

Edit: ninja-ed by the OP.

I don't post very often on forums because of this kind of response. How about some help and not comments about me. What are you all doing in your games? Be nice.

BTW Thanks Anaraxes for your help. That was useful.

Anthony · 03-03-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB

I don't post very often on forums because of this kind of response. How about some help and not comments about me. What are you all doing in your games? Be nice.

Okay, the basic comment is "many people have noticed this, pretty much since 4th edition was published, and there have been massive threads on the topic which no-one really wants to rehash. There are some alternative rules in High Tech which may seem more realistic".

GMB · 03-03-2017, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Okay, the basic comment is "many people have noticed this, pretty much since 4th edition was published, and there have been massive threads on the topic which no-one really wants to rehash. There are some alternative rules in High Tech which may seem more realistic".

I did notice the hiking rules early on as well but I never got the communities outlook on it. That is why I posted. And I did search the forum. I guess I missed something. Still, based on some of the replies to my post, it seems unpopular on the forums to be nice or considerate. Whatever. Thank you for your help. I will check out High Tech. I have to buy a copy.

Happy Gaming or should I say GURPSing.

DanHoward · 03-03-2017, 05:59 PM

The Hiking rules seem to be based on an optimal situation that rarely occurs in reality. Pretty much every scenario and modifier will reduce the base time.

The threads supplied by Anaraxes cover the subject pretty well. High-Tech is definitely worth a look.

corwyn · 03-03-2017, 06:09 PM

I think the system in DF 16 will give you close to the system you want. An average man in "normal" conditions (light forest/slightly hilly plains) will walk about 20 to 30 miles in a day, depending on whether someone has Survival skill.

I actually think the book is doing a disservice being in the DF series because a lot of people will ignore it because they don't do DF.

03-03-2017, 05:38 PM	#1
GMB Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Inside most of the time.	Hiking and movement per day seems wrong. In the GURPS 4th ed Campaigns book (3rd printing) pg351 reads: "The distance in miles you can march in one day, under ideal conditions, equals 10 x move." This means if I am unencumbered and on AVERAGE (NO modifier) terrain and my MOVE is 5 (DEX 10) I can march 50 miles per day! I researched this and just about everywhere I look the best of us in ideal conditions (NORMAL fit folks NOT hyper-trained special forces etc. that have nearly no limit!) the max distance in miles per day traveled in general is 20 to maybe 30 miles per day. The multiplier here should be 4 NOT 10. Any comments? Am I doing this wrong? Help. BTW after 2 decades of playing GURPS it still is my go to system for detailed, open system play. GURPS is the dice!

03-03-2017, 05:46 PM	#4
Flyndaran Untagged Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon	Re: Hiking and movement per day seems wrong. I don't think he meant that he researched everywhere, just that everywhere he researched gave much lower numbers. Though I can't imagine how someone that joined in 2005 failed to see those emotionally intense threads. Edit: ninja-ed by the OP. __________________ Beware, poor communication skills. No offense intended. If offended, it just means that I failed my writing skill check.

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DanHoward Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maitland, NSW, Australia	Re: Hiking and movement per day seems wrong. The Hiking rules seem to be based on an optimal situation that rarely occurs in reality. Pretty much every scenario and modifier will reduce the base time. The threads supplied by Anaraxes cover the subject pretty well. High-Tech is definitely worth a look. __________________ Compact Castles gives the gamer an instant portfolio of genuine, real-world castle floorplans to use in any historical, low-tech, or fantasy game setting.

03-03-2017, 06:09 PM	#10
corwyn MIB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Re: Hiking and movement per day seems wrong. I think the system in DF 16 will give you close to the system you want. An average man in "normal" conditions (light forest/slightly hilly plains) will walk about 20 to 30 miles in a day, depending on whether someone has Survival skill. I actually think the book is doing a disservice being in the DF series because a lot of people will ignore it because they don't do DF. __________________ MiB 7704 Playing: GURPS Nordlond Dragons of Hosgarth Running Savage Worlds Tour of Darkness (Vietnam + Mythos)