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Old 03-17-2021, 12:01 PM   #1
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Are there rules for enraging your enemy and make them fight carelessly? I seem to remember something in Dungeon Fantasy, but I can't find it.

If not, how would you game it? Fast-Talk seems the natural skill to use. Contest of Skill vs. Will, and if they fail they make Committed Attacks? Penalty to defenses?
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Old 03-17-2021, 12:11 PM   #2
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Or an IQ based feint.
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Old 03-17-2021, 12:16 PM   #3
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Fast-Talk based Feint?
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Old 03-17-2021, 12:22 PM   #4
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Try Rapier Wit (B79). Additional rules can be found in Powers.
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Old 03-17-2021, 12:26 PM   #5
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Are there rules for enraging your enemy and make them fight carelessly? I seem to remember something in Dungeon Fantasy, but I can't find it.
There's Rapier Wit in basic. One DF rule you might have been thinking about is 'Taunt and Bluster' (exploits 58), but that's aggro manipulation, not fight carelessly.
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Old 03-17-2021, 12:27 PM   #6
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Gurps Social Engineering and Social Styles from Pyramid 3-54
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Old 03-17-2021, 01:32 PM   #7
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Social Engineering, pp. 69-70, "Starting a Fight." Primarily you use Fast-Talk for an Influence roll. The margin of victory acts as a penalty to a self-control roll for Bad Temper or Berserk.
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Old 03-17-2021, 01:46 PM   #8
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Are there rules for enraging your enemy and make them fight carelessly?
You start with the Gypsy Rule of Exploiting your Enemy's Weaknesses. First you find an Enemy who has the right weaknesses.

That's the crux of the problem. Nothing much will work on an enemy who doesn't have the relevant Disads.
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Old 03-17-2021, 02:36 PM   #9
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As other people have alluded to above, GURPS:Martial Arts offers a perk to permit Feints with a given non-combat skill. A successful Fast-Talk (or Public-Speaking if you prefer) based feint would allow you to reduce your opponent's defenses, which could be flavored as your clever taunts enraging and distracting them. It also suggests (p.101) that, as a special effect, the roll to resist such a special feint may be based on something other than Dexterity, so your opponent might need to make a Will-based combat skill roll to keep his composure rather than a Dex-based combat skill roll to keep his weapon in line.

EDIT: Of course, you face the risk that your opponent cancels out the penalties by saying "How appropriate, you fight like a cow."
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Old 03-17-2021, 04:50 PM   #10
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It should be affected by context. What works for talking down a gang lord does not work for conducting a political dispute in a royal court or in Parliament. Tomey Lee Jones' speech in Lincoln was delicious and while it might not be fit for the street it works great in Congress. Similarly what is good for talking to a rival military officer might be different again (there's a legend I read from Guadalcanal that when the Japanese shouted "Blood for the Emperor", conveniently in English, the Marines replied, "Blood for Elanor").

Savoire-Faire should be a modifier.
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