09-20-2015, 01:44 PM | #1 |
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Actual Impaling Question
What are the rules for actual impaling? Like, how much damage does an impaling weapon need to do before it actually goes straight through the body and stops dealing damage? The same question goes for the different levels of piercing damage.
I'm assuming cutting damage has a 6x HP damage limit or something since being cut clean in half would be almost certain instant death while crushing has no limit since you would be practically exploding after a certain point of force. |
09-20-2015, 01:59 PM | #2 |
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Re: Actual Impaling Question
What you're looking for is the "Overpenetration" rules. Basic Set 408. Further stuff related to weapons going through people on High Tech p 162. I'm pretty sure there's something else I'm missing - possibly in Martial Arts.
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09-20-2015, 02:01 PM | #3 |
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Re: Actual Impaling Question
Overpenetration is on B408.
Optional rules for blowthrough no longer causing direct damage is on HT162. Impaling (and keeping at bay) a charging foe is on MA106. |
09-20-2015, 07:09 PM | #4 |
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Re: Actual Impaling Question
So the rules basically say after 1xHP damage (if using bleeding rules), the weapon/projectile has gone through the body and stops inflicting injury. However, this seems small for impaling/huge piercing and overkill for small piercing. Would it be better for the threshold to be 0.5xHP for small piercing, 1xHP for piercing, 1.5xHP for large piercing, and 2xHP for huge piercing/impaling? The reasoning behind it is that something with a larger diameter should cause a much wider wound canal meaning higher potential injury. This is all for a general torso hit without vitals btw.
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09-20-2015, 08:27 PM | #5 | |
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Re: Actual Impaling Question
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09-20-2015, 09:04 PM | #6 | |
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Re: Actual Impaling Question
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EDIT: Quite frankly I don't see why they didn't have rules for getting thrust/imp weapons stuck in your opponent standard (making it a specific damage threshold instead of just the way the section on Picks reads) since with high enough ST it's possible to do as much damage with a thr/imp weapon as a ST 10 person could do with a sw/imp one... Last edited by Barghaest; 09-20-2015 at 09:12 PM. |
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09-20-2015, 11:47 PM | #7 | |
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09-20-2015, 11:53 PM | #8 |
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Re: Actual Impaling Question
Those are completely different things. Overpenetration is about how much the target's body does to stop your attack from hitting something behind them. That is about damage by definition, because damage is penetration. And mechanically it doesn't have any relevance to the rules on HT162.
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09-21-2015, 12:20 AM | #9 | |
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Now I won't argue that pulling a sword free is easier than pulling a pick free because of the angle of applied force, that I understand. But if you thrust through someone with a vertical blade and they twist laterally it will impede removing it (same if you have the blade horizontal and they shift vertically - such as collapsing because the thrust has incapacitated them). |
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09-21-2015, 04:53 AM | #10 | |
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If you thrust a spear into someone in combat it's just as likely they'll move or you'll move removing the straight line ease of removal. I'd make it a factor of damage rolled, the thing is since Sw Imp is likely to be more than Thr Imp anyway you'll still have a harder time removing a Sw Imp weapons as a Thr Imp. You just won't have the current situation where if just catch you for 1 point of daamge with a Sw Imp weapon, I get it stuck but can impale you with spear for 10 points of damage and not risk getting stuck Last edited by Tomsdad; 09-21-2015 at 05:48 AM. |
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