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Old 09-28-2013, 09:02 PM   #1
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Default How much for "Gets spell acc bonus without aiming"?

How much for an advantage that lets you get the acc bonus of a spell without aiming? It's like the gunslinger advantage bot only one part of it so it should be cheaper. Any ideas?
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:16 PM   #2
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Gunslinger(Spells) +0%
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:21 PM   #3
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You might find these past threads for a "Spellslinger" Advantage interesting.

http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=62167
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=113641
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:25 PM   #4
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Unless you want a feature beyond getting your Acc on unaimed shots, just buy up your skill -- no spell has Acc above 3, and +3 Innate Attack is only [12] (Gunslinger, as written in Basic, is totally pointless; various other books have added extensions to it).
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:09 AM   #5
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Unless you want a feature beyond getting your Acc on unaimed shots, just buy up your skill -- no spell has Acc above 3, and +3 Innate Attack is only [12] (Gunslinger, as written in Basic, is totally pointless; various other books have added extensions to it).
What if the character needs multiple Innate Attack skills?
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #6
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What if the character needs multiple Innate Attack skills?
No character needs multiple innate attack skills, because they default to one another at -2. Buy one of them up, and default the rest.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:53 AM   #7
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No character needs multiple innate attack skills, because they default to one another at -2. Buy one of them up, and default the rest.
Okay, I sit corrected.

But there's still some justification in having a spell-equivalent of Gunslinger, as an alternative to 3 levels of skill, provided that it costs less than it would cost to buy 3 levels of skill.

How about 10 CP? That's nice and round, and a very modest discount indeed.
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:58 AM   #8
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How about 10 CP? That's nice and round, and a very modest discount indeed.
Quite modest indeed, considering that fully half of Magic's Missile spells are only Acc 1. 5 points might be too low, but is probably closer to the fair value.
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:38 PM   #9
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Quite modest indeed, considering that fully half of Magic's Missile spells are only Acc 1. 5 points might be too low, but is probably closer to the fair value.
It's sounding more and more like a non-issue.

Then again, my mental image when I see the Gunslinger advantage, costed at 25 CP, is that it should be a massive boost for characters who use pistols and resvolvers and other one-handed shortarms. Which it most definitley isn't.

(Granted, there are Line Editor-sanctioned Limitations as big as -60% to trim it down to something that makes sense for such characters.)
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:00 PM   #10
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I would call this a Magic Perk per Innate Attack Skill, as long as perk limits for Magic Perks are in effect. It seems comparable enough to Psychic Guidance.
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