Determining the highest-level monster

curio · 12-01-2008, 01:02 AM

When discarding the highest-level monster due to there being no bases left for a new one, how to treat conditional bonuses (such as "+5 (+10 against wizards)")? The way we've handled this so far was to just ignore conditionals (use "+5" in the above example). Is this the way it's intended, or are the bonuses to be added up from the perspective of the player during whose turn the new monster is being brought into play? Thanks!

Gawain · 12-01-2008, 03:52 AM

Ignore those. But do count enhancers.

Progmode · 12-01-2008, 03:54 AM

That's how we did it. Think if it like this, if you're discarding the highest level monster(s) because you're out of bases, it's because you're facing a different monster. The monster about to be discarded isn't currently in combat, so it wouldn't be facing a Wizard (or whatever) so the condition for the monster to ge the bonus would not be met.

curio · 12-01-2008, 04:10 AM

That's the way we played it, too, so thanks for the consensus. :-)

One more specific case, however: With the "Mate" monster enhancer, is the affected monster's level effectively doubled when determining the highest-level monster?

Progmode · 12-01-2008, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by curio

That's the way we played it, too, so thanks for the consensus. :-)

One more specific case, however: With the "Mate" monster enhancer, is the affected monster's level effectively doubled when determining the highest-level monster?

Note that you discard all tied monsters if there is a tie for highest level. If the Mated monster is the highest level monster then the Mate is the same level and they both get discarded.

curio · 12-01-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Progmode

Note that you discard all tied monsters if there is a tie for highest level. If the Mated monster is the highest level monster then the Mate is the same level and they both get discarded.

No doubt about that, but, say, a "Mate"d level-10 monster is not to be considered higher in level than a level-15 monster, right?

Progmode · 12-01-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by curio

No doubt about that, but, say, a "Mate"d level-10 monster is not to be considered higher in level than a level-15 monster, right?

Right. The Level 15 is still the higher level.

MIB2826 · 12-01-2008, 09:19 AM

I'd like the opinion of Erik D. Zane, the Lord Munchkin on this.

Because . . .
I see the a Mated Monster as one 20th level single entity:
Mate is a monster enhancer end there is only one base.

Progmode · 12-01-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MIB2826

I'd like the opinion of Erik D. Zane, the Lord Munchkin on this.

Because . . .
I see the a Mated Monster as one 20th level single entity:
Mate is a monster enhancer end there is only one base.

Perhaps I've fallen into the Munchkin != Munchkin Quest trap.

Gawain · 12-01-2008, 09:59 AM

I'm with Jan on this one. Don't have the card in front of me ATM thou.

12-01-2008, 01:02 AM	#1
curio Join Date: Dec 2008	Determining the highest-level monster When discarding the highest-level monster due to there being no bases left for a new one, how to treat conditional bonuses (such as "+5 (+10 against wizards)")? The way we've handled this so far was to just ignore conditionals (use "+5" in the above example). Is this the way it's intended, or are the bonuses to be added up from the perspective of the player during whose turn the new monster is being brought into play? Thanks!

12-01-2008, 03:52 AM	#2
Gawain Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Trondheim, Norway	Re: Determining the highest-level monster Ignore those. But do count enhancers. __________________ XBL Gamertag: Gawain X

12-01-2008, 03:54 AM	#3
Progmode MIB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi	Re: Determining the highest-level monster That's how we did it. Think if it like this, if you're discarding the highest level monster(s) because you're out of bases, it's because you're facing a different monster. The monster about to be discarded isn't currently in combat, so it wouldn't be facing a Wizard (or whatever) so the condition for the monster to ge the bonus would not be met. __________________ "Someone is, or is thinking about, talking to someone else about possibly doing something sometime in the future." - MunchkinMan

12-01-2008, 04:10 AM	#4
curio Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: Determining the highest-level monster That's the way we played it, too, so thanks for the consensus. :-) One more specific case, however: With the "Mate" monster enhancer, is the affected monster's level effectively doubled when determining the highest-level monster?

12-01-2008, 09:19 AM	#8
MIB2826 MIB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hintham, The Netherlands	Re: Determining the highest-level monster I'd like the opinion of Erik D. Zane, the Lord Munchkin on this. Because . . . I see the a Mated Monster as one 20th level single entity: Mate is a monster enhancer end there is only one base. __________________ JHG Hendriks One Of Our European MIBs © f(x) = exp(-sqrt(1+x^2))

12-01-2008, 09:59 AM	#10
Gawain Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Trondheim, Norway	Re: Determining the highest-level monster I'm with Jan on this one. Don't have the card in front of me ATM thou. __________________ XBL Gamertag: Gawain X