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12-05-2018, 11:28 AM | #1 |
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[GURPS 2e] Questions with IQ and Controls(A version of Compartmentalized Mind)
(I have a localized version of 4e basic set. While I have consulted with Google and (surprisingly information-deprived)wiki, advantage or any other term may be misused. Please notify me if I made an error)
(Title says 2e because I had some confusion. It is 4e.) <Setup> I made a remote controlled spotter drone as an NPC Ally. The player character is also a machine so I added Telecommunication(Radio, +Video) on both sheet, and Controls(Compartmentalized Mind, vehicle version, 25CP/Lv) on drone side. Drones' IQ is 0 and can fly(maximum height 10m). <Questions> 1. The PC initially needs to do IQ check to connect with the drone(via Telecommunication), and can control it afterwards(unless something disrupts the signal). While the connection is maintained, the PC receives real-time video feed from the drone(+Video on Telecommunication). The drone can stay hovering or move somewhere in constant speed, but can change behavior only when the PC controls it with their action. Am I understanding this correctly? 2. The drone might do actions that corresponds to some skills such as Aerobatics. Can the drone(with IQ 0) have skills, and how would it be resolved? 3. Is Digital Mind allowed to IQ 0 character(.....though it sounds more like a disadvantage in this case)? 4. The drone has Scanning Sense(Radar, +targeting). Can the PC use the drone to target something and get bonus to their own ranged attack? 5. If someone tries to hijack the drone, how would it be resolved, 1)while the PC is connected to the drone and controlling it, and 2)while the PC is not connected to the drone? Thanks Last edited by ClockworkOwl; 12-05-2018 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Error correction |
12-05-2018, 11:33 AM | #2 |
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Re: [GURPS 2e]Questions with IQ and Controls(A version of Compartmentalized Mind)
Um... this cannot possibly be about 2e, as most of the things you describe did not exist in 2e (I might actually have some 2e books still kicking around somewhere, but they're ancient).
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12-05-2018, 11:36 AM | #3 |
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Re: [GURPS 2e]Questions with IQ and Controls(A version of Compartmentalized Mind)
My book says 국문 2판(Korean 2e). It is possible that it refers to translated version. Lemme check...
.....yeah. It's 4e. If there are any moderator present, can I get the thread title changed? |
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Yes, IQ 0 means it cant make any decisions. Telecommunication is about sending info, the controller does not need video since the drone wont benefit from the player sending pictures. Quote:
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If not connected they would automatically take over. You would need to buy advantages or IQ to try and fight it off. Mind Shield with the player having it as a Puppet for a secure backdoor is an option.
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* For it to be an AI, even a dumb one, it has to gave an IQ. Your drone, as described, doesn't. † It could however have an 'expert' program to handle routine functions like limited Piloting. In this case it might use it's Piloting skill to handle movement problems when the Character isn't piloting it. Quote:
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In the second case it would be Electronics Op (Electronics Warfare) to hijack the signal if the drone was on 'stand by' and operational. If the signal is encrypted, they'll also need Cryptography to decode or forge the proper electronic encryption keys. This would go for both attempts, either against a stand-by drone or one actively being controlled. |
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12-05-2018, 02:44 PM | #6 | ||||||
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2) In this case, the PC won’t even be aware the drone is being hijacked, absent an automatic alarm system, until he checks in. If the hijacker gets out of Telecommunication range before the PC checks in, the PC won’t know where the drone is, or what happened to it. He may guess that it has been stolen but he doesn’t know if it’s parked on somebody’s workbench, at the bottom of a lake weighed down by stones, or broken into a thousand little pieces. Quote:
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12-07-2018, 10:47 AM | #7 |
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Re: [GURPS 2e]Questions with IQ and Controls(A version of Compartmentalized Mind)
Ahhh, missed that part. Thanks for the heads-up. It is also +multi-mode, though - so there won't be explicit prohibition on using the targeting function while on imaging radar mode. In this case, would there be no problem in using the drones' imaging radar to target PCs' attack?
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12-07-2018, 11:41 AM | #9 |
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Re: [GURPS 2e] Questions with IQ and Controls(A version of Compartmentalized Mind)
I'd say a tool can be IQ zero but an ally must have some IQ specifically because Ally implies autonomy. At IQ 0 The drone literally couldn't make any decisions such as elevation or attitude to take evasive action or direct itself. It's very ability to follow the user requires minimal IQ.
Even with animal intelligence the drone can interpret threats and evade them with surprisingly high Dexterity and speed. Digital mind is the simpler form of sorting out how your drone works. If it has an IQ 0 it's just equipment and doesn't need any kind of mind. The drone would have to have the ability to afflict you with the advantages to bestow them to you. Having to "log in" to the drone and being limited by it's view would be significant Limitations on the advantage. Someone trying to hijack the drone would likely contest their hacking ability against the drone's Willpower (representing the complexity of it's programming). Likely the same way it would resist EMP attacks. |
12-07-2018, 01:49 PM | #10 |
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