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Old 06-25-2016, 09:52 AM   #11
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Scalping tickets to musicals isn't like jacking up prices for necessities like water or food.
I'm sure Mammon appreciates the poetry of scalping tickets to Hamilton.
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:01 AM   #12
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oh am I better then a scalper?

I Bought an extra copy of Devil Summoner 2 (With the Raioh plushie) and of VAmpire Dark Ages 20th anniversary edition Deluxe copy.

Both I bought with the intention of resaling at a profit.

figured, that I was being helpful, for those who didnt know the kickstarter was going on.

Since I am giving them a chance to buy the book late.

Since more people who pledge for the book, more copys were printed...


Oh another "Greed or Theft" Question

The word of Fences, as in illegaly fencing stolen goods, is that under Theft, or Greed , since he isnt stealing things himself, but is encouraging others to do so, and is most certainly greedy.

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Old 07-04-2016, 06:27 AM   #13
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Oh another "Greed or Theft" Question

The word of Fences, as in illegaly fencing stolen goods, is that under Theft, or Greed , since he isnt stealing things himself, but is encouraging others to do so, and is most certainly greedy.
That's a difficult call, but personally, I'd lean towards Theft, and not only because I'm slightly biased against minor Superiors. Probably, many reasons can be found for the Word falling under Greed, too.

Mammon might say that Valefor and himself understand each other, but Valefor just sees Mammon's coffers as another challenge to steal out of - or take wholesale. Dealing with illegally acquired goods is certainly something Mammon's demons do, but being "the Fence" to somebody somehow strikes me to be more fitting to Valefor.

Valefor knows that every thief - and every Thief - might need somebody who takes certain goods out of their hands, quickly. And why not attach a price tag to the item far under its real market value and thus "steal" it from the thief, or Magpie, who's forced to get some cash and incriminating evidence off his hands? And since the seller just gets so little, he needs to make it up with another theft to get by. By fencing, Valefor's Word gets fueled thrice.

Of course, it's difficult for the Demon of Fences to stay in one place for a longer time. But why not have him or her have a network of "branch offices" maintained by Soldiers, while the Demon itself is roving between those "offices"? And, of course, it's probably using the Internet a lot, too, having accounts on "Deep Web"-forums (or fora(?)) as well as on eb*y and other easily accessible webstores.

I envision that Demon to be a Balseraph, Djinn, Habbalite, or Lilim. I guess points can be made for any of those Bands.


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P.S.: And now I'm remembering a phrase we got told over and over during our Law Studies: "Before giving an answer, look up the legal text!" I don't have my books with me, at the moment, but maybe somebody else can take a look into Superiors 4 and see if among the Words associated with those to Superiors' Words is "Fences".
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:56 PM   #14
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P.S.: And now I'm remembering a phrase we got told over and over during our Law Studies: "Before giving an answer, look up the legal text!" I don't have my books with me, at the moment, but maybe somebody else can take a look into Superiors 4 and see if among the Words associated with those to Superiors' Words is "Fences".
And once again, that phrase wins the day: S4, p90 "Notable Word-Bound Thieves include Jonas, the cigar-chomping Djinn of Fences,"
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:25 PM   #15
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oh a curious question?

on dissonance?

how much does context matter to ones Superior.

like Say, does a Cherubim of Dominic who Vessel kills a Redeemed he was monitoring, to keep him from being captured by the game, get a relatively easy time removing it

(That should still cause dissonance, because, while in his best interest, your still killing him)

oh and is "Trolling" Under Nybass, or Malphas.

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Old 07-13-2016, 07:06 AM   #16
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oh and is "Trolling" Under Nybass, or Malphas.
Views can differ, but to me, Trolling is about as obvious as it gets for a Factions Word. The whole purpose of a troll is to stir things up and make people take sides.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:22 AM   #17
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like Say, does a Cherubim of Dominic who Vessel kills a Redeemed he was monitoring, to keep him from being captured by the game, get a relatively easy time removing it
Very easy, as the Cherub of Dominic attunement prevent dissonance for injury to subjects of inquiry - but for anyone else, you'd need to provide a new body or equivalent, and they start at 3cp each. It'd be one of those situations that gains intellectual approval while feeling nauseous: sort of the way a human would feel about preventing children from starving by cutting off your fingers and feeding them to them.
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Old 07-18-2016, 08:38 PM   #18
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Very easy, as the Cherub of Dominic attunement prevent dissonance for injury to subjects of inquiry - but for anyone else, you'd need to provide a new body or equivalent, and they start at 3cp each. It'd be one of those situations that gains intellectual approval while feeling nauseous: sort of the way a human would feel about preventing children from starving by cutting off your fingers and feeding them to them.

Hmmmn what I was thinking is does a superior make it easier to remove dissonance gained like that then say a Mercurian who goes "Oh I just killed him because he gave an old lady the Finger, He deserved it and earths better off without him"
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:29 AM   #19
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Hmmmn what I was thinking is does a superior make it easier to remove dissonance gained like that then say a Mercurian who goes "Oh I just killed him because he gave an old lady the Finger, He deserved it and earths better off without him"
I'd say that depends on what kind of game you want to play, or even from superior to superior. If you have superiors taking the stance that as long as you were doing the best you could they'll help you that will create a different atmosphere than if they take a hard line of telling you that you should have found another way. They don't even have to be bad for the second. They could just be following the common saying that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:04 PM   #20
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I'd say that depends on what kind of game you want to play, or even from superior to superior. If you have superiors taking the stance that as long as you were doing the best you could they'll help you that will create a different atmosphere than if they take a hard line of telling you that you should have found another way. They don't even have to be bad for the second. They could just be following the common saying that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Does that road exist in canon?
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