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Old 01-04-2019, 03:39 PM   #1
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Variant rules for sand rails were published in ADQ 10/3.

Warehouse 23 - Autoduel Quarterly Vol 10, No 3
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This excerpt from Special Ops Magazine regarding the 1990s Desert Patrol Vehicles is interesting. RRs, BCs, and HRRs might be problematic to mount on Car Wars sand rails. :o)

Desert Patrol Vehicle (DPV)
https://special-ops.org/3330/desert-patrol-vehicle-dpv
Special Ops Magazine
December 28, 2016

The original tests and preparations for such a vehicle used commercial dune buggies modified to carry weapons such as TOW missiles and recoilless rifles. The problem with the recoilless rifles was about recoil because they still had enough power to flip the lightweight dune buggies and this idea was abandoned.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:57 PM   #2
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What's a sand rail?
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:04 PM   #3
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What's a sand rail?
Google has you covered: a car designed to drive on sand.
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:39 AM   #4
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:49 AM   #5
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The problem with the recoilless rifles was about recoil because they still had enough power to flip the lightweight dune buggies and this idea was abandoned.
There must be recoiless and recoiless as I have seen a recoiless rifle being fired from the shoulder. Given the tiny damage CW RRs generate I am happy to assume the basic (2d) model is a shoulder-able version (which is nevertheless more conventionally tripod mounted).

On that basis it seems unlikely that any changes to the CW rules for them.
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Variant rules for sand rails were published in ADQ 10/3.

Warehouse 23 - Autoduel Quarterly Vol 10, No 3
http://www.warehouse23.com/products/...ber-10-slash-3
One other factor: At the time, one of the "big deals" in auto racing was the attempts by the Mickey Thompson Group, among others, to bring closed-course off-road racing to "arena"-type venues -- baseball parks; football stadiums (most famously the L.A. Coliseum, where the course ran up and down sections of the grandstands); small dirt tracks; etc. One of the classes involved used tube-frame buggies topped with bodywork resembling passenger cars. (Sadly, the only really memorable part of the whole business was the TV broadcasts using "Born To Be Wild" as the title music.)
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What's a sand rail?
In the 80s, it was a VW beetle-based dune buggy. You basically had the “pan” (floor connecting the 4 wheels), the engine in the back, and a steering wheel for the front. You can stick a rudimentary frame (rails) on top and you have a basic off-road capable vehicle that you might not die in if it rolls over...

Me and some friends bought homemade one for $100 in 1988 and tinkered on it for a while, it is most memorable for me in that while quick-charging the ancient battery on it, the battery burst; shooting battery acid all over the place, including my face and clothes... luckily it was extremely dilute, i hit the water hose and washed off so fast that there was no lingering effect (other than those clothes had too many holes to be wearable again). Suphuric acid is tricky stuff. I think we got that thing running and drove it once. Scary enough that we went back to Baja bugs instead.

I always like the GI Joe Vehicle the “AWE Striker”. It was a sand rail with a rocket launcher on top.
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Wow, interesting anecdote. I remember back in the 70s dune buggies and motorcycles on the beach were a thing, and controversial at the time because there was no legislation. I've seen all kinds of "sand rails" I guess, I never knew they were called that.

Are there CW stats for the Delta force or SEAL versions?
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Are there CW stats for the Delta force or SEAL versions?
No. Among other issues: One would need to use the Ring Mount from _Chassis and Crossbow_ to mount the weapon (note singular); worse, they have no armor at all.
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They don't need armour, the bullets bounce of their reputations ;)
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