Indiegogo: Ogre Miniatures Set 3 - Doppelsoldner and Ogre Mark VI

[woodchuck]

Originally Posted by karlbergman

Well, I tried to support but Indiego would not let me. Kept saying my Zip Code was incomplete, even when I used my 5+4 Zip Code. I would suggest sticking to Kickstarter, they at least take my order.

Indiego wants your zip code in the box where you enter your payment info. It's a little weird to me.

[offsides]

Originally Posted by woodchuck

Indiego wants your zip code in the box where you enter your payment info. It's a little weird to me.

Many credit cards want the billing zip code to go through, though why IGG can't take it from your shipping info I don't know (unless they don't collect that at pledge time). Heck, I can't even pay-at-the-pump for gas without giving it my zip code first...

[HeatDeath]

I found that SO annoying when companies started putting multiple borderless text entry boxes in the same rectangle. It's like established UI conventions mean NOTHING to these people!

I swear, Web UI "designers" arent't happy until they've completely hidden or obfuscated every useful function in a website or application!

[Yes, I'm pretty comfortable with a company not giving a flip about me as a person, but when they start flouting UI conventions, that's the hill I'm gonna die (or at least be seriously annoyed #firstworldproblems) on. Probably says something about me, and I'm not sure it's entirely complimentary. :) ]

[TheAmishStig]

Originally Posted by woodchuck

Indiego wants your zip code in the box where you enter your payment info. It's a little weird to me.

I work with Stripe as part of my day job...it's one of the "additional verification" options they provide in their anti-fraud suite.

[Mr Chuck]

I agree with those who are saying that it comes down to your trust in the project creator(s). I have had long waits on items from SJG (Nightfall :) ) and from Arc Dream (Delta Green expansions), but both companies have always come through. I am also glad to see SJG trying other crowdfunding options, even though it may be a "trial by fire" so to speak. This may well be the only way we will get Vulcans, Mk 1s, Mk IIs, Missile Crawlers, and other vehicles / structures. Long Live Ogre!

[deinol]

I must admit, I'm kind of surprised BackerKit hasn't started to let creators run projects from there. Their interface is way better than either KS and IGG, and they already have the infrastructure to collect funds.

[ColBosch]

After sleeping on this, I've decided that I will not be participating in this project at this time. I am here to have fun, and while I understand SJ Games has their reasons for switching from Kickstarter to Indiegogo, it's a non-fun move for me.

[voodoo54]

Well I'm in for the triple minis. Bring on the double-pay men!

[CON_Troll]

Wow. The back-and-forth about IGG is... pretty stunning. Since I haven't used IGG before, I can't comment on them. Except to agree the UI is a bit screwy to say the least. Web designers here probably remember the old phrase "Mystery Meat Navigation."

What I CAN comment on is SJG.
They have shown that they are trustworthy and are the very epitome of a principled company.
Despite setbacks and roadblocks in individual projects, they have always delivered in the end.
They have maintained a high-degree of communication (and transparency) in every project to reassure backers.
And the quality of their project pieces is incredible. I honestly didn't believe they could match the OGRE metal miniatures in terms of detail when I back OM1.

I realize that the above sounds like unabashed fanboy-ism. But it is also the absolute truth, I'm sure everyone here will agree.

With all that said, I have to ask:
Why NOT back this project? IGG's reputation isn't the main factor here. SJGs is. And we KNOW they are beyond reproach.
Just to be clear, I am not trying to be confrontational. I just believe that IGG's reputation does not matter in this instance. SJG's does.

[Buzzardo]

SJG is trustworthy. IGG is merely a pipe to pass money from me to SJG, so I'm not worried about it.

I am worried about missing the next project, because there appears to be no way to follow a creator on IGG. I have an email inquiry in about that.

Other than that, the having to delete and start over to adjust one's pledge is aggravating, but I can cope.

I have already identified a number of bugs (such as a link with no href attribute), both on their site and in their email communication. They definitely suffer from the modern approach to development: Let the designer's go wild, don't test adequately, and ignore input from the customers. They'll either get better or go away - no way to tell which at this point.