02-02-2014, 05:53 PM | #21 | |
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02-02-2014, 09:04 PM | #22 |
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Yeah, I imagine there are enough ways to game the system to come out with a bunch of badges but no real skills, but the time commitment the people who were serious about it put in ought to be good for at least 6 or 8 points. I'd probably call it a point in each of Diplomacy (Eagle scouts do do conflict resolution stuff right, and not just the Girl Scout side?), First Aid, Housekeeping, Survival, one area of interest of your choice, and something for the traditions, maybe Savoir Faire (Scouting).
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02-02-2014, 09:39 PM | #23 |
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Well, IDHMBWM, but is the "skill degradation" rule still in effect for 4e?
Most of the former Boy Scouts I know let their skills degrade into dabbler perks, and bought off their codes of honor, etc. |
02-02-2014, 10:05 PM | #24 | |
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All that said, the potential for variety from scout to scout is larger now than it ever has been. They even have a chess merit badge. |
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02-02-2014, 10:28 PM | #25 | |
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First of all, Dabbler is NOT someone who "saw a TV show", it is a hobbyist. Second, I am mentioning the minimums that I would expect, because a lot of Scouts (even Eagle Scouts) will be at the minimums in any given area, and because there is no actual aggregate level of competence required. |
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02-02-2014, 10:43 PM | #26 | |
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02-02-2014, 10:45 PM | #27 | ||
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For Swimming, I barely passed the requirements (which only required a 200m swim) at the time, and that was the literal peak of my swimming skill - if I could pass it at what must surely have been a Dabbler level at best, I see no reason to make a full point a requirement. And consider that for a substantial number of Scouts, the only time they will really do any swimming is in a pool at camp for a week out of the summer - my Troop didn't do any activities that required me to do more than possess a Swimming badge (which, as I already mentioned, is pretty easy to get). For Hiking, it is worthwhile to note again that different Troops have different levels of activity. Some go hiking once or twice a year, hardly the sort of thing that leads to a full point. I was lucky to be in a more active Troop, but I later served on the staff at Philmont and was astonished at the lack of both skill and conditioning apparent in a number of self-announced Eagle Scouts (admittedly from more urban areas). The minimum required for an Eagle Scout is a single 5-mile hike, under no pressure and with all the attempts you need (hopefully, 1). At the moment, Eagle requires Swimming OR Hiking OR Cycling, so perhaps for Dabbler it should just be "pick one". |
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02-02-2014, 10:59 PM | #28 | |
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BTW, First Responder is typically a 40 hour course and I recall it covering about everything the Scouts had and a few things more. 200 hours of training is about what it takes to be an EMT. I would normally say that Default +2 would be a Boy Scout or hobbyist, Default +3 would be a First Responder, 1cp is EMT-Basic, 2cp is EMT-Intermediate, and 4cp is EMT-Paramedic (all as minimums). |
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02-03-2014, 01:54 AM | #29 | |
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02-03-2014, 02:02 AM | #30 | ||
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That's miles away from the skill level of 8-10 that you'd get if you spend 1 point in some of the scouting skills for a regular scout. Quote:
Aside from that, Dabbler may represent hobbyists, particularly for a high-Attribute character, but in general, skill level 8-11 represents hobbyists. Skill level 6-7 is more likely to represent former hobbies, which have deteriorated to only just above default. For nearly anything without extremely strenous testing with real consequences if you fail, the minimum competence is zero. What I think the OP is more interested in is the likely competence for someone who actually defines himself and is defined as a character by his scouting experience.
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