03-03-2019, 06:32 PM | #21 | |
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Nobody tries to do this. The one guy I knew who was capable of doing something like this would get a target identified by intelligence, and then get dropped in a couple of miles from the location. He'd move through the jungle, infiltrate the location, kill one or two people, and then exfiltrate. Generally, he'd pop amphetamines as soon as he exfiltrated, because he figured he had to move through the jungle fast to his pickup point, because he was gonna be pursued. He was an awesomely competent guy, but even he would only go after one or two people -- at most -- in a guarded camp, and he assumed the kills would get discovered before he made it to the chopper.
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03-03-2019, 10:38 PM | #22 | |
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Now, more really good snipers than any military has would be something just about any army would welcome, but not too many more - just having all the snipers and marksmen they already have be that good would be more than sufficient.
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03-03-2019, 11:43 PM | #23 |
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Re: On the Fragility of Life
The best option would be to have an army where everyone was as good at their jobs as Häyhä was at his. Snipers that are amazingly good snipers. Infantry that are amazingly good infantry. Supply depot clerks that are amazingly good supply depot clerks. Etc.
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03-04-2019, 10:08 AM | #24 | ||
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03-04-2019, 02:27 PM | #25 |
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Re: On the Fragility of Life
100 guys is too much unpredictability to kill with being badass with a knife and above average strength. You're going to lean Kou De Gras and hope you don't roll a 1 for damage fighting the guys who are awake. I think they'd get through a fairly small number of them. An enemy camp implies that there would be people on guard. With Master Stealth you're going to take out all of the posted guards, but the guy wandering out of the gambling tent to take a **** is going to see nobody at any of the guard posts and he'll freak out. Then it's 73 awake guys with weapons.
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03-04-2019, 03:35 PM | #26 |
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Re: On the Fragility of Life
100 sleeping campers, Mr Stealthy Knife would cause havok.
100 soldiers at night...not so much, since sentries, patrols and night owls are a thing. Assuming they are in active deployment, they would have to have criminally incompetent leadership to all fall to one implausibly competent but not superhuman knife-wielding assassin. Note that various US units during the Vietnam War did have leadership/morale problems which resulted in criminal incompetence and even then, the Vietnamese weren't able to simply put on their sneaky shoes and knife murder multiple platoons with impunity. |
03-04-2019, 04:24 PM | #27 |
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Re: On the Fragility of Life
Could such an individual plausibly poison/contaminate the food/water supply though (as well as fun things like assassinating the senior enlisted)? Depending on the military force, killing the senior enlisted effectively kills a company, as you have one inexperienced officer leading dozens of inexperienced enlisted.
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03-04-2019, 04:34 PM | #28 | |
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The character needs to identify targets, evaluate defences, plan how to circumvent them, etc. I note that real snipers are trained to identify leaders and target them to disable enemy units. There is nothing unrealistic about this, it's one of the reasons Observation skill is among the primary skills for a sniper. Many military units actively avoid obvious rank insignia, saluting or other ceremony in the field to make it harder to target officers and senior NCOs.
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03-04-2019, 05:58 PM | #29 |
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Re: On the Fragility of Life
The guy shouting orders, the guy with the radio, the guy(s) with the support weapons(s), and anybody who tries to take over those tasks. That's the rough kill order, though it's unusual that a sniper would get very far down that list before deciding that they should quietly fade away and go bother some other unit.
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03-04-2019, 07:19 PM | #30 |
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Re: On the Fragility of Life
Generally why I think that sniper teams should have four people in them. The leader identifies the targets while the flanker protects the team while the sniper and spotter take out the targets. Of course, the larger the force, the more intelligence the force has.
Just out of curiousity, what would you think of the effectiveness of a mixed weapon corps of four divisions? I was thinking that two sniper divisions supported by an anti-armor divisor and an anti-air division would be quite effective. What do you think? |
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