Dragon Steed

[Quotencommon]

The Dragon steed says that enhancers will work on it, since it already flies, talks, and breathes fire. Does that mean the new enhancers added in DeRanged will not work on it either, even though they do not grant these abilities?

[StaticHamster]

other enhancers will work

Talking, Flight and Fire Breathing Bridle do not.

[natesroom]

Static this is all i could find for a ruling on this subject

http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...4&postcount=30

SJ just got back to me a little while ago since he was away on business, just like the Daily Illuminator said he was. . .
Item Enhancers work on all Steeds, including the Dragon Steed. Item Enhancers do not work on Steed-only Items, and no Steed-only Items work on the Dragon Steed.

Obviously that post is a little older, but i don't think that's an issue

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by natesroom

Static this is all i could find for a ruling on this subject

http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...4&postcount=30



Obviously that post is a little older, but i don't think that's an issue

Its age has no significance since there was no card or ruling changes affecting that specific card between pre- and post-April 2010 printings.

[williamg1313]

I think he's refering to the 3 new steed enhancers in de-ranged, one of them (vanity plate) has a drawing specificly being used on the dragon steed even though the dragon steed says you can't use steed enhancers

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by StaticHamster

other enhancers will work

No, they won't. "The Dragon Steed cannot be enhanced" is crystal clear -- you cannot play Steed Enhancers on it.

I'll have to pull out and check the Munchkin 4 and 5 rules, but I believe they address the question of playing regular Item enhancers on Steeds.

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by williamg1313

I think he's refering to the 3 new steed enhancers in de-ranged, one of them (vanity plate) has a drawing specificly being used on the dragon steed even though the dragon steed says you can't use steed enhancers

I understood what was being referred to, and as was said then and now, the Dragon Steed can not be enhanced by Steed Enhancers.

[Koto]

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

No, they won't. "The Dragon Steed cannot be enhanced" is crystal clear -- you cannot play Steed Enhancers on it.

The Vanity Plates confuses me. The Dragon Steed is using it in the picture! So... Can the Dragon Steed be enhanced ONLY by the Vanity Plates?

See ya

[MunchkinMan]

The art never dictates the rules, only sometimes clarifies things (the Blowgun from Munchkin Fu is the best example I can think of at this point). Contradictory art happens occasionally, but, again, never does the art define the rules. If Vanity Plate said it overrode the Dragon Steed's rule, that would be different than using the art to say that it overrode the rule. Andrew and I have stated, and SJ himself has been quoted, that no Steed Enhancer works on the Dragon Steed, and that is the final, official word on the matter.

[Munchkin King]

I kind of thought that art did dictate rules sometimes, like how an Assassin gets a bonus for every gun he possesses. When you blend Munchkin Impossible Booty, Assassins get that bonus for muskets, even though those cards don't say they are guns: it's the picture of the gun that makes it a gun and gives the bonus. Likewise, a Samurai would get his sword bonus if she were using a cutlass, also because of the picture of the sword.

I'm not contesting the ruling about enhancing the Dragon Steed, only suggesting that the Vanity Plates question was a reasonable one.