04-20-2021, 09:59 PM | #1 |
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[MH] Inhuman Template: Spore
Hello, I came to seek feedback and rule checking on a new Inhuman option I created.
It is based on works like The Colour Out of Space, Saya no Uta and The Thing.
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04-21-2021, 06:12 AM | #2 |
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Re: [MH] Inhuman Template: Spore
Full Immunity to Metabolic Hazards seems unlikely for a living creature. Maybe Immunity to Sickness and Resistant to Poison, plus Unusual Biochemistry? Or Immunity to Metabolic Hazards (Earth, -20%) as for the devourers in Applied Xenology.
Swapping Cosmetic on Morph for Retains Mass allows you to drop parts of your racial template (i.e. Constriction Attack, Striker, Stretching) to pay for advantages, which both lets you improve appearance (allowing you to impersonate any human) and use animals' physical traits. This costs only 10 points, which can be paid for by tweaking Immunity and adding Unusual Biochemistry. To go full Thing-mode, you really want Improvised Forms, but the cost is steep. Dropping Constriction Attack, Stretching, Striker (all easily replaced with Improvised Forms), Unfazeable (not central to the concept), and Appearance (I think it works out more point-efficient to drop appearance to pay for physical traits as needed, since then you get full value for it rather than the mitigated version) plus taking -1 to DX and IQ (seems reasonable for something with basically no central nervous system) should give you about enough. The standard inhuman disadvantage of Reputation doesn't seem to fit spores, so I'd suggest a compulsory swap for Curious (which, if I read you right, is intended as a personal disadvantage).
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04-21-2021, 08:55 AM | #3 |
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Re: [MH] Inhuman Template: Spore
Given the list of your inspirations, shouldn't they have Social Stigma (Monster) that is mitigated by their Morph?
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04-21-2021, 09:19 AM | #4 |
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Re: [MH] Inhuman Template: Spore
It seems like the Mitigator on Appearance should be -80%, like the Morphology Inducer from MH5.
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04-21-2021, 10:07 AM | #5 | |
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EDIT: Also, does Appearance need a Mitigator? You already have to "pay" for negating it out of your Morph budget if whatever you turn into isn't a hideous mass of pulsating flesh.
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04-21-2021, 05:52 PM | #6 | |
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My reasoning behind Immunity to Metabolic Hazards is that it can devour anything, poisonous substances, viruses, bacterias, everything is equally food for it, and given it has Universal Digestion and extensive homogenous anatomy, it's entire body is akin to mouth. Nanomachines might be an exception but if I recall correctly these falls outside the Metabolic Hazards definition. Besides, it's supposed to be a sort of bioweapon and it would be embarrassing for such being to become ill due to sickness or poison, earthly or alien. The problem with Resistant to Poison is that some poisons like Curare can cause damage or other negative effects regardless of your resistance and can only be prevented by complete immunity. I like Unusual Biochemistry idea, it's weird that this creature can be positively affected by medicines without problem but not negatively so, and this disadvantage would fix it. Quote:
Varyon's analysis is also on point. I imagine this creature being able to look like an innocent child one moment, then leap as an horrendous mass right after. This wouldn't be the case if it had Constriction Attack et al as "part" of Morph. It's probably feasible if I add Reduced Time, but then again the cost becomes a barrier. I'd argue Unfazeable is central to the concept. I couldn't fit Terror in it, but ideally it should be akin to a cosmic horror that causes SAN check on normal people who look at its natural form. It would be unbefitting if it became intimidated by some gangbanger or panicked after meeting another horror monster. I wouldn't reduce its IQ but I've considered adding something like Innumerate. I don't want this creature to be "dumb" but it would be flavorful to make its intelligence alien to humans, it would also keep it from becoming too technological. I like the idea of reducing its DX, though. I was afraid it had too many edges in violent combat due to its Injury Tolerance and Regeneration, despite lack of ST, and I think reduced DX would make it more rounded. Quote:
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I agree with you regarding Morph but as I mentioned above this trait is a mystery box for me. Using your horse example, can Morph with Cosmetic/Mass Conservation be used by SM+0 creature to turn into a SM+2 horse because of Stretching? Similar questions keeps rising when I look at it and don't feel confident in using it. About Appearance, it's another question that raises thanks to Morph. In doubt, I went with what official Inhuman templates did. Thanks very much! Edit: I have a question, is there some way to make Leech into a normal attack? As in, it needs to penetrate DR to take effect? As is it's malediction-like and bypass all DR. Contact Agent was my first thought, but it simply can't penetrate DR, you'd need to strip the target of all non-tough-skin DR beforehand to use it. I ask because I'd swap passive regeneration for a a devour-and-recover type of ability, like take a bite and use the enemy meat as yours. Last edited by Sorenant; 04-21-2021 at 08:12 PM. |
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04-22-2021, 06:30 AM | #8 | |
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04-22-2021, 07:03 AM | #9 | |
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It makes a big mess that ends with a significant limitation priced out to being an enhancement. Calls for a more simple ruling. I could hand-wave the Contact-no contact and ranged-not ranged, but then -80% off for Weaponized (DR Protects) seems too generous a discount. |
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04-22-2021, 07:35 AM | #10 |
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Re: [MH] Inhuman Template: Spore
Would Social Stigma (Monster) be counted? The moment you're revealed for who you are, you have to run.
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