Dungeon Fantasy/Monster Hunter Powers in Standard Games

[shkspr1048]

Would the powers out of Dungeon Fantasy and Monster Hunters unbalance more traditional games (if such things exist in GURPS)?

[simply Nathan]

I don't think so. I'd certainly allow them, especially that nifty Pickaxe Penchant talent.

[panton41]

I've allowed them. For the most part they're built from abilities in other books and balanced and play tested so I see no reason why not. I'm about to import RPM into an Elder Scrolls game for example.

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by shkspr1048

Would the powers out of Dungeon Fantasy and Monster Hunters unbalance more traditional games (if such things exist in GURPS)?

I don't think so. Perhaps the species Talents, because some or all of them may be too sweet for a realistic campaign, but all the other traits are built according to the RAW, so if you accept that GURPS point costs are inherently balanced, then no, they won't unbalance your game.

[Gnome]

Originally Posted by Peter Knutsen

I don't think so. Perhaps the species Talents, because some or all of them may be too sweet for a realistic campaign, but all the other traits are built according to the RAW, so if you accept that GURPS point costs are inherently balanced, then no, they won't unbalance your game.

Pickaxe Penchant is fine. Forest Guardian is not. Every scout-type character in the world will want Stealth, Camouflage, Bow, Fast-Draw Arrow, and Survival. To be able to raise them all for 5 points is way too cheap.

[Dustin]

Similarly, Craftiness (DF11.35) is a little too sweet for my taste, but I'm considering a ban on all 5-pt Talents in future games anyway.

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by Dustin

Similarly, Craftiness (DF11.35) is a little too sweet for my taste, but I'm considering a ban on all 5-pt Talents in future games anyway.

Why not just raise their cost a little?

Raising the cost is always preferable to "banning", to my mind. Otherwise I wouldn't be a fan of Unusual Background.

[RyanW]

Originally Posted by ciaran_skye

I've allowed them. For the most part they're built from abilities in other books and balanced and play tested so I see no reason why not. I'm about to import RPM into an Elder Scrolls game for example.

Yummy. I hadn't really given much thought to GURPS Elder Scrolls since MH was released, but it is a good fit.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Gnome

Pickaxe Penchant is fine. Forest Guardian is not. Every scout-type character in the world will want Stealth, Camouflage, Bow, Fast-Draw Arrow, and Survival. To be able to raise them all for 5 points is way too cheap.

Not as much in a modern game.

[panton41]

Originally Posted by Gnome

Pickaxe Penchant is fine. Forest Guardian is not. Every scout-type character in the world will want Stealth, Camouflage, Bow, Fast-Draw Arrow, and Survival. To be able to raise them all for 5 points is way too cheap.

In DF they're both are limited to racial templates, which is usually seen as an allowable way to break the suggestion to not include combat skills in templates. I'd simply require the same thing in a more general game.