10-31-2013, 10:45 PM | #61 | |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
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Continuous shuffling machines can fubar counting as well as speed up the game so you lose faster, but since they put handled cards back into play, they might not survive 4W and 5W marking schemes. |
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10-31-2013, 11:01 PM | #62 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
Solvable with sleeves or smart paper cards that simply change their markings when you shuffle.
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10-31-2013, 11:12 PM | #63 | |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
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And still doesn't prevent the cards from being marked on in some subtle way. |
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11-01-2013, 12:51 AM | #64 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
It makes marking the cards irrelevant, because knowing what physical card you're dealing with doesn't help.
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11-01-2013, 06:47 AM | #65 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
"4W and 5W marking schemes" include stuff like smart dust that lets you mark the front of the card and tells you via LPI what it currently says it is.
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11-01-2013, 10:25 AM | #66 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
Any wireless communication scheme (involving nano or not) can be busted by sensors at the table.
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11-01-2013, 11:49 AM | #67 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
That's a mighty strong, nigh-absolute statement, unless you mean literally can rather than will. Cite?
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11-01-2013, 06:18 PM | #68 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
You have some form of wireless communication that _can't_ be detected by sensors 3 feet away?
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11-01-2013, 06:20 PM | #69 |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
And more to the point, that can be detected by the person trying to use it? Sure, 5th wave cheating probably beats 3rd wave security, but why assume 3rd wave security?
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11-01-2013, 06:54 PM | #70 | |
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Re: Gambling in 2100?
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Don't you guys remember hcobb ranting about this sort of stuff a while back? |
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