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Old 11-26-2012, 11:21 PM   #1
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I read the sidebar "Sex and the Single Celestial", and although nothing stops an amorous couple from knocking boots, what about reproduction? If so, where does the kid's soul come from? (Just a curious question posed by one of my players when I asked how they liked the game so far.)
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:58 PM   #2
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Grigori (and presumably Skulkers, Fallen Grigori), are able to sire/bear children in much the same way as a mortal. All other Celestials need the Celestial Song of Fruition* to do so. In both cases, on a CD of 5-6 for angels or 3-6 for demons the offspring is mutated in some visible fashion. Otherwise, they're apparently normal but have a higher than usual chance of 6+ Forces and being Symphonically aware.


*An Angel can get called before the Inquisition for even knowing this Song, let alone using it. Demons aren't forbidden from knowing it, but getting anyone to teach it to you is difficult, and finding a use for it that your Superior will approve of even more so, so most don't bother.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:23 AM   #3
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I always has the impression that the mutation thing was referring to only between Celestials and Mortals. It's for Celelstial-Celestial as well, then?
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:22 AM   #4
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I always has the impression that the mutation thing was referring to only between Celestials and Mortals. It's for Celelstial-Celestial as well, then?
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. Celestial reproduction works rather differently, and Vessels are not interfertile, no matter what Song you use. When angels want to reproduce, 2-6 angels donate 3-9 Forces, and with the assistance of a Superior or an angel with Eli's Midwife Attunement these Forces are bound into a Reliever or fledgling Angel with traits akin to its parents. Demons could probably do the same, but they don't, and their Superiors probably wouldn't help them anyway.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:16 PM   #5
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Ah! Thanks for clearing that up! I know somewhere in the book is a little flavor text about a demon-tyke asking his daddy if Angels could get into Hell and the father answers that only Angels can go to Heaven, but anybody could get into Hell. The image of Demonic domestic bliss tickled my funny bone!
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:20 PM   #6
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Ah! Thanks for clearing that up! I know somewhere in the book is a little flavor text about a demon-tyke asking his daddy if Angels could get into Hell and the father answers that only Angels can go to Heaven, but anybody could get into Hell. The image of Demonic domestic bliss tickled my funny bone!
I'd be interested to know where that one was; I thought I'd been over the books pretty thoroughly and I don't recall anything like that.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:21 PM   #7
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I'd be interested to know where that one was; I thought I'd been over the books pretty thoroughly and I don't recall anything like that.
Hahah, it's just a fun bit of flavour text right under the section of Hell (aka the page with the ugly sunbather) in the core book. It's right before it describes the cities and the principalities. :)
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Hahah, it's just a fun bit of flavour text right under the section of Hell (aka the page with the ugly sunbather) in the core book. It's right before it describes the cities and the principalities. :)
So it is, I'd never noticed it before. the one that lwasy stuck in my head was "In Hell, everyone can do whatever they want, and unfortunately, some of them may be bigger than you."
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:09 PM   #9
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Yeah, I've got the black hard-cover from 1997 and it's on page 184, top of the second column. (BTW, the illustration of Michael on pg 130 is my favorite image of my favorite Angel. He has been since way back when I was a little rugrat in Sunday School!)
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