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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
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11-05-2019, 07:00 PM | #52 |
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11-05-2019, 08:44 PM | #53 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
No. Never. Those are explicitly monotheistic, and we've covered that - this world was created by a pantheon. Those divine entities appear to different peoples as different aspects, for reasons of their own that they know and don't share. That gives the GM lots of room to maneuver, which is super-important in a generic setting. But I'm not bringing in real-world religions, full stop. Firstly, I'm not knowledgeable enough to get them right, with proper respect. Second, that's not the point of the world.
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11-06-2019, 05:13 AM | #54 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
If you want to know more about the Proto-Indo-European pantheon which lies behind all the Indo-European pantheons, I recommend this page and Indo-European Poetry and Myth by M.L. West.
I do not vouch for the webpage's accuracy, but it's great fodder for games.
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11-07-2019, 11:46 AM | #55 | ||
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
This is making me think of GURPS Cabal a bit.
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So, it seems to me that Odin and Zeus would be different interpretations of the Allfather rather than Zeus being an interpretation of Odin, and I think people would be plenty-willing to fight over who has the correct interpretation. For monotheistic religions, it's not crazy to believe that they worship the Allfather and see the other deities as angels or whatever else (and maybe the Trickster was vilified an turned into the Adversary). Or they may have folded up all of the deities and they simply perceive them as one! If certain deities don't map perfectly, it's not crazy to think that (like in the above excerpt from GURPS Cabal) that there might be two (or more!) different interpretations of a deity that cover certain aspects. It could also go the other way (like in my monotheism example) where a defining line got lost and two different deities are interpreted as one! Or where the lines got muddy, so there are two different deities, but some of their aspects got swapped. And all of them could be real, but just stepped down from their archetypal god. EDIT: And, of course, Douglas Cole has already said some pretty similar stuff himself. Though, my main addition would be that the Allfather would never directly intervene in mortal affairs—Odin or Zeus would as particular aspects or interpretations of the Allfather. Quote:
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11-07-2019, 12:54 PM | #56 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
Thanks. A lot of interesting stuff. But I am a simple person and I will just have my gods be unique and individual rather than saying they are just aspects of the same god. A god like Poseidon has he sphere in the divine energies of water and he would share that with Aegir but they would be separate with distinct personalities and motivations. In game terms a cleric of Poseidon who finds a holy item of Aegir can use it as long as the cleric consecrates the item first. The item would be imbued with the holy energies of water but would need to dedicate it to the correct god first. This would go for altars too.
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11-07-2019, 04:15 PM | #57 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
I know I'm nitpicking but Ægir isn't the god of the sea.
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11-07-2019, 06:31 PM | #58 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
Maybe Njord is better? In any case the point I am trying to make is that the Norse gods do not directly overlap over to the Greek gods or Egyptian gods. Each pantheon and god from the pantheon is different than other pantheons and gods of the other pantheons. Plus there are a lot of lesser gods that are unique too. So for me it is easier to just assume that each god is unique and has his own personality and story of how they came to be and what they have done and created.
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11-21-2019, 10:34 PM | #59 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
Beating Doug to the announcement punch, Hand of Asgard's preview PDF was released to Kickstarter Backers tonight!
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11-22-2019, 05:35 AM | #60 |
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Re: Nordlond Sagas: Three new books for the DFRPG
I mean, people sacrificed to Ægir. If that makes him a god or not is a matter of definition.
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