01-27-2020, 01:38 PM | #51 | ||
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Re: Conculting Astronomers for Investigating the Occult
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01-27-2020, 04:45 PM | #52 | |
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Re: Conculting Astronomers for Investigating the Occult
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And Kessler has, in established backstory, some pretty strong reasons to be curious about any correlation between the heliacal and acronychal rising of specific celestial objects at given points of the Earth and paranormal phenomena, both in the period from the 1980s to the current time, but also in tales, legends or written sources covering earlier history, back when he (and other occultists) theorize that the supernatural was more accessible and influential. By the early 1990s, it was possible for some of of the vanishingly rare individuals in the world who had both the innate gifts and the esoteric knowledge to obtain information about the past beyond what mundane sources could grant. Divination, dream visions, prophetic trances, psychometry, spiritualism, medium trances, even what may or may not be necromancy. But prophecy tends to be cryptic, spirits lie and even those who seem plausible may have a fuzzy grasp of time and space. So it's actually pretty possibly to get a fairly detailed vision, dream, prophecy or spirit communication about a religious ceremony held when the Star of the Water Twins was visible from the Grove of the Ancestors, between the twin peaks of the Buffalo Horns, as the Red Sun sank into the Lake of the Moon Maiden; but only know the approximate decade or even century when this took place, as well as a rough geographical region. If you're going to find the grave where the Death Mask was interred with its last wearer, I presume you need an academic or two to untangle the correspondance of religious symbolism to actual celestial or geographic objects, geographers or geologists to create models of the area in the past and an astronomer to calculate suitable times for any hypothezised stars to be visible from plausible locations within the time range.
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01-27-2020, 09:33 PM | #53 | |
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I might also argue against needing an astronomer. While that could be useful if the island is truly on another planet (or time, or dimension), a lot of what an astronomer could do could also be done back on the ship or as a stage two guy. You could also pack a telescope and have some other expedition members take some pictures of the sky. Especially because I think most Astronomical Chronology work would involve looking up a lot of stellar/planetary positions in reference books. Ultimately, given the short time frame, I think a lot of who would be on the team is who would be available/willing to drop everything and sail into a hurricane with only a day or two notice. (P.S. When Lovecraft wrote "the stars are right," I always figured he was more talking about planetary conjunctions rather than stellar motions, which "stars" being taken metaphorically to mean all of the heavens.) |
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01-27-2020, 09:49 PM | #54 | |
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Re: Scientific Specializations for Exploring Unknown Island
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I whole-heartedly second the suggestions of the entomologist and botanist. Ornithology will be interesting, but since birds tend to be able to fly, they might tell you less about the isolation, novelty, or lack of, of the island. Luke |
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01-27-2020, 10:07 PM | #55 | |
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01-27-2020, 10:57 PM | #56 | ||
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For the bubble chamber, as an example, you could rig some mechanical camera triggers to expose film or a photographic plate with the right time and exposure, linked to triggering the bubble chamber detection period. A lot of physics can be done accurately with purely mechanical and optical instruments, but making many of them would be a lost art.
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01-28-2020, 01:34 AM | #57 | |||
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Note that for all intents and purposes, Professor Harlan P. Wehmeyer, mundanely educated as a petroleum engineer and geophysicist, has spent the past decade or so studying 'para-physics', i.e. thaumatology and tellurgy. Professor Wehmeyer has had no success at actually performing ritual magic (unlike, for example, Reverend Francis Coughlin, S.J.), but Wehmeyer is an intelligent and well educated man who has had eight years to study the subject with plentiful resources and the ability to consult any kind of expert he considered necessary (as long as he could be reasonably certain that the consultant was trustworthy and would respect an NDA). Quote:
I'll assume that any astronomers involved were not among the people on the amphibious aircraft that was the first to reach the island or the ca 60' to 70' fast and seaworthy boat swiftly repurposed into plane tender and expedition vessel. Obviously, Kessler would have been planning to also bring a larger and more dedicated research vessel, with proper support facilities for a helicopter, mobile docking facilities and the ability to carry enough fuel and equipment to allow a seaplane to be operated for quite some time. This would be loaded with scientific equipment and carrying more academics and scientists. Unfortunately, while Kessler no doubt owned a stake in companies with access to such a vessel, that sort of ship was probably located around Houston and not kept in a constant state of expedition readiness. Given that it would sail much slower than the faster and smaller craft based on Dominica, the distances involved mean that the properly equipped vessel hadn't yet arrived when Hurricane Luis hit the island. Quote:
Basically, those who are among the first 8-10 academics and scientists to reach the island are those whom Kessler considered to be both sufficiently trustworthy and in possession of a skill set vital to his purposes, and who were prepared to do a crazy and imprudent thing for some reason, probably some combination of scientific curiosity, sense of adventure, a belief that failure to investigate risked some supernatural catastrophe, loyalty to a munificent and charismatic employer and/or desire for filthy lucre (Kessler would pay unreasonable amounts for anyone he considered truly vital). Being born in 1918 and having any number of eccentricities, Kessler also imposed other requirements for expedition members. They had to be reasonably fit, willing and able to survive unspecified dangers in the wilds, willing to be accompanied by armed security and expected to conduct themselves as part of an expedition run in a quite paramilitary fashion. They also had to be male, because while Kessler does not hesitate to employ female executives, attorneys or other professionals, he views this expedition as 'combat duty' and is reluctant to send women into so much danger.* There would be female scientists and other personnel supporting the expedition, from Houston, Florida, the Bahamas, Dominica, Guadeloupe, St. Lucia and a forward base on either the Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico, but none of them would be expected or allowed to sail or fly into what was certainly dangerous in terms of the weather and might expose them to otherwordly supernatural terrors. *In 2018, this attitude has moderated somewhat, but in 1995, not only Kessler, but most members of his security teams and certainly those planning the expedition, believed that women should not be exposed to front-line combat. So I have always assumed.
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01-28-2020, 02:22 PM | #59 | ||
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Re: Scientific Specializations for Exploring Unknown Island
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Any ideas what universities or research institutions such specialists might come from, if they are mostly focused on the Caribbean? Quote:
What about technicians or generally mechanically savvy people who might be used to assisting scientists, like a long-time marine engineer of Kessler's expedition vessel or a capable mechanic from the securitty team, both of whom have taken part in dozens of scientific expeditions to various Caribbean locations in the last eight years, and been asked to assist scientists in a variety of fields setting up gear and performing measurements?
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01-28-2020, 02:44 PM | #60 |
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Re: Scientific Specializations for Exploring Unknown Island
While not critical by any stretch of the imagination an academic with a knowledge of history, especially local history might be put higher on the list.
A naval or structural engineer, depending on specialization might have both useful knowledge to help with analysing structural discoveries and practical skills to help the rest of the group.
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