04-05-2017, 10:28 AM | #1 |
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[RPM] Definition of Subject, Stacked Spells
Hi, me and my group have a Medieval Fantasy campaing in course and one of the players is a RPM mage adept (in this case, me). There is a discussion about what is the definition of subject for stacking purposes, every time a similar spell is casted by the mage. We need enlightment in this matter...
The GM thinks that the same spell cannot be casted without stacking, example: If the mage use Lesser Create Matter to make a sword, he cannot cast the same spell again for a Lesser Create Matter to make a shield... It need to be a single spell with the 2 combined sword/shield. In his comprehension the "Subject" in this case it's the own mage because is his magic. The same applies to portals, you cannot have more than one active portal (Greater Create Crossroads), you need to cast both at the same ritual example: Inside a house, the door to the right are linked to a mountain in Tibet and the door to the left a Caribbean beach... In my understanding the Subject its the active magic itself. If the mage cast Lesser Create Matter (Sword), he cannot cast a posterior magical effect involving the Sword (A DR enhancement for example) as the Subject would involve an active spell, in this case he should do in the same magic (Lesser Create Matter + Lesser Strenghten Matter)... Another question is about stack of Summon Allies... If summoned an Ally Spirit (G-Cre-Spt) (Ally 50% stating points, summonable, etc etc etc) and i name him BLUE, he can summon another equal but named RED? As the Advantage Ally can be bought multiple times and isnt a leveled advantage? Other thing... and this is a tough one... Can the path Energy be used to manipulate space/time as Crossroads? As the speed and gravity of objects can be changed with Energy, with sufficient amount of pressure you can compress space/time to a state that you are in the past/present/future altogether? Thank you for your time! |
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04-05-2017, 12:38 PM | #4 |
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Re: [RPM] Definition of Subject, Stacked Spells
Thank you for the clarification... Just another question...
Can i use RPM to give a subject, innate attack? Ex.: a materialized Spiritual Sword - Innate Attack Burning 3d (ST Based; Melee C,1; Affects Insubstantial, Spirit), with Greater Destroy Spirit and Lesser Create Matter? |
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04-05-2017, 04:52 PM | #6 |
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Re: [RPM] Definition of Subject, Stacked Spells
The stacking limits are mostly about stacking buffs and debuffs on people-type subjects, IME.
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04-06-2017, 11:57 AM | #7 |
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Re: [RPM] Definition of Subject, Stacked Spells
Please, how to use telekinesis with Greater Control Matter? I've read something in the RPM book that impaired me with doubt... Something about using the TK's ST and DX using the Path skill level as reference... I've done this spell before with Altered Traits: Telekinesis, huge cost...
There is another way to do this spell? Thanks |
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04-10-2017, 01:36 PM | #9 |
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Re: [RPM] Definition of Subject, Stacked Spells
Hi again... I've got some more questions about RPM...
Let's say that i use Lesser Create Matter and make a huge rock (4.000 ton), about the size of a small Caravel... As stated in the TH:RPM book, Lesser Create Matter can summon raw materials, in this case a huge rock... So i use in the same spell a Greater Control Matter and accelerate this rock at 100,000 y/s (Mach ~300)... Calculating the resulting energy of this: KE = 0,5 * (m*v²) = 0,5 * (4000 ton [40,000,000N] * 100,000 y/s² [91440m/s]²) = 1,67225472e+17 Joules... Well... This is the equivalent energy liberated from a E.L.E. (Extintion Level Event)... So... By my calculations this spell should cost 156 EP... Lesser Create Matter 6pts Greater Control Matter 5pts Speed (100k) 28pts Weight (4k) 12pts Duration 10min 1pt... Is this right? Can a crazy a** mage do this? |
04-10-2017, 02:07 PM | #10 | |
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You ALWAYS pay for effect, even when it would not make any sense, because its magic. If your on a bridge you can't summon a 50 tonn bolder and let the weight of it destroy the bridge, you need to pay for the damage to destroy the bridge. Similarly the extinction level even will require lots of dice of damage (and probably area effect) or somehow, some way, it does not work. How it fails to work is up to your GM just a flat 'no you can't do that, pay for the damage' is fine, but sometimes its fun to let it happen then prevent any damage from being done. |
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