Question about multi stat strength in racial template

[ericbsmith]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Every time you actually use that extra ST. You want to use it to lift something? Can't use your hands. Want to slam something? If you use a weapon to slam you can't use those extra HP in your Slam damage; just upper body.

What you're describing isn't a lack of Fine Manipulators. That's ST that doesn't work under certain circumstances. "+x ST, not when making a slam with a weapon; +x ST, not for lifting with the arms" aren't much different than "+X ST, only at Night" or "+X ST, only while wearing spandex and a cape."

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

When a parrot is holding food in one foot it can be standing on the other, so it doesn't really have No Legs.

Well, no, what it has at that exact moment is One Leg with the mitigator "only when using the leg as an arm" and the disadvantage One Arm with the mitigator "only when using the arm as a leg." Then there are times when it has No Legs with the mitigator "only when using its legs as arms". That's an overly complicated build, so it's all wrapped up into one disadvantage called "Foot manipulators."

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

When prosthetic arm-guy is hit by a EMP pulse only one arm is affected so he doesn't really have Electrical.

The whole point of that build is that the prosthetic arm itself suffers from the Electrical disadvantage, and to represent that you can use the TD limitation. So while the guy may not personally suffer from Electrical, the arm does which does inconvenience the guy at times.

Mind you, I don't like how split ST was handled in 4e, but calling it TD: No Fine Manipulators is a misnomer.