03-27-2016, 07:58 PM | #131 |
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Oh, and Federal and Winchester were other common ammo brands.
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03-28-2016, 01:56 AM | #132 |
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Splendid. And might BT (Boat-Tail) ammo be the sort that zips through foxes and bobcats making an exit hole little wider than the bore, when used in the .22 calibers, i.e. poor terminal performance on humans? Or would boat-tails tumble and yaw in the target at velocities over typical .22 LR?
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03-28-2016, 08:46 AM | #133 |
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Completely unrelated to the current discussion on hunting, something caught my eye this morning that I think is valid.
A lot of the sparsely-populated rural areas, which I believe includes logger and potato farming areas of Maine, cable television wasn't always supported. Satellite television receivers, however, were "the big thing" around the late '80s/early '90s in such areas. What caught my eye was someone's leftover giant satellite dish in their back yard (they had the modern smaller dish inside it). The satellite dishes were about 10 feet in diameter and mounted on a four to six inch diameter steel pipe. I'm uncertain as to the channels received, but I remember that local channels were not available via satellite.
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03-28-2016, 11:28 AM | #134 | |
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I suppose the Allens have a satellite dish. What did 80s television show? Courtney Allen, the 21-year-old son, would be a Miami Vice fan if they can get it on their sat dish. Of course, he had no trouble catching the last two seasons '86-87, while at school in Cambridge, MA. Courtney also likes 80s action movies (at this time just known as 'action movies'), including cheesy martial arts movies (which he doesn't consider cheesy). A new favourite might be Hong Kong director John Woo. Also a fan of anything with mammaries & posteriors. Clayborn Allen might watch the news. In his mind, John Wayne and Humphrey Bogart were real red-blooded men in their movies, whereas anyone shouting HAI! and prancing around with chorus-girl kicks just looks ridiculous. Spaghetti Westerns were quality foreign movies, made in English with proper actors, and if you need high-octane action, Steve McQueen was a far better action hero than any of the ox-like current crop in Hollywood or any squinty Oriental. Clayborn saw a lot of movies in drive-through when he was young. A favourite classic, shared with his wife, is Gone with the Wind, and he secretly does not mind at all when Mrs. Allen says he looks just like Clark Gable as Rhett Butler.
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Ironically, the testimony of the teacher in question was simply that the girls didn't show on that morning, but their father's truck drove past the school building early in the morning. The janitor/librarian/dogsbody who works part time at the school (and seems to spend a lot of time in the library, even when there is nothing to do there) recalls waving to Mrs. Greybear in the car and seeing the two girls in the backseat wave back. In the front seat was a Mr. Wahaki, friend to George Greybear and, evidently, better friend to Mary Tomah Greybear. Quote:
The adventure is set in an extremely rural area, of course. Allagash has less than 500 people and Dickey, the unincorporated part of it, adds a couple of hundred. Two neighbouring 'towns' of St. Francis and Saint John Plantation (both within 10-20 miles) count around 700 people in total and there are maybe another two hundred people living within ten miles of the towns on farms, without being part of Allagash**, with those people mostly east of St. Francis and Saint John. Less than five people per square mile, even if you only consider the part of the Valley that is actually inhabited. The population density of Allagash itself is less than three people per square mile at this time, for that matter. *My New York City cousins always went day-care back in the 90s (and I think late 80s, for the eldest) but then, both their parents worked. Well, they both worked full time until my second cousin was born, at which point my uncle's wife spent less time in her office. Not none, though. "]**Which administratively owns most of the wilderness around it, being the largest town in Maine by square mileage, at around 140 square miles.
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03-28-2016, 12:50 PM | #136 | |
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That being said, Sommiers is a fair shot (skill 12), he simply lacks woodcraft (Survival (Woodland) -8) and doesn't have the best coordination (DX 9, Clumsy) or awareness (Per 9). Obviously, though, the .30 Carbine is not the optimal round for their hunting, but Sommiers is the most likely among the group to not care about the fur as a trophy or abstract notions of sporting clean kills. He cares about 'winning', or, at least, not feeling like he lost against the others at anything. On the other hand, it's not as if he has a driving passion for it, any more than he has a passion for anything in his life anymore, really. He doesn't like to lose, but he's grown fairly used to it. Actually, most of the dozen or so men who go on this annual hunting trip are pretty decent hunters. The average experience of hunting among them is around 20 years or so and some of them are extremely keen amateurs who have few hobbies other than hunting. The worst of them is County Commissioner Alexander Cadieu, who hadn't hunted in almost 20 years (and then only seldom and casually) when he first came with them four years ago. He's coming along just fine, though, with around skill 10 in both woodcraft and shooting. Most of the rest have skill 12-13 in relevant skills, with Clayborn Allen and his old frenemy Phil Willette having expert level skills in stalking and shooting. The two of them were the best hunters of their generation even as boys, at least until young Abel Dufresne started growing up. But then, Dufresne became a Marine Scout-Sniper in Vietnam and won the Silver Star.
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03-28-2016, 03:23 PM | #137 |
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Given how expensive and obvious the dishes were I think the networks didn't worry about encryption that much. The number of people that would watch them was small and couldn't watch any other way. Plus I think the sat feed had the national commercials already in it.
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03-28-2016, 04:00 PM | #138 |
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Speaking of satellite TV, how has it changed since the 1980s vs the 2010s in that regard? What are the differences now in satellite TV now vs then?
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03-28-2016, 05:23 PM | #139 | |
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Also, the receiver is much smaller, such that you can have a satellite dish on the balcony of every apartment in a three story apartment complex. Back then, you wouldn't have had the room for a single one to service the entire complex. The number of channels available was smaller as well; I want to say there were about 20 as opposed to today's ~200. HBO or Cinemax, no Starz or spin-off networks, MTV was still showing music videos (I don't think VH1 existed yet), and I'm pretty sure Turner was still expanding. I'm pretty sure "reality television" hadn't yet been invented - MTV's The Reel World, which started the whole thing, was still a few years off I believe.
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03-28-2016, 06:11 PM | #140 |
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Depends on the satellite setup, the old large dishes were getting the raw network feeds. IF you had the right equipment, you could point it at any satellite, government satellites tended to be encrypted. I had a college professor in 1986 who liked fencing, he used his dish during the 84 Olympics to watch the German coverage, he also watched the British equestrian coverage.
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