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Old 08-13-2020, 04:38 PM   #1831
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Why would any advanced society without slavery tolerate a slave holding society of primitives on the same planet? They would not even need to attack them directly, they could target the bioroids with tailored contagious proteus plagues to remove any disadvantages that make them submissive, use memetic engineering to encourage them to rebel, and arm the rebels with more advanced weapons than their masters. Within a generation, the masters are extinct and the bioroids become valuable clients of the city-states.
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Old 08-13-2020, 04:48 PM   #1832
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Why would any advanced society without slavery tolerate a slave holding society of primitives on the same planet? They would not even need to attack them directly, they could target the bioroids with tailored contagious proteus plagues to remove any disadvantages that make them submissive, use memetic engineering to encourage them to rebel, and arm the rebels with more advanced weapons than their masters. Within a generation, the masters are extinct and the bioroids become valuable clients of the city-states.
An interesting campaign, not much like mine, but interesting.
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Old 08-13-2020, 04:50 PM   #1833
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they could target the bioroids with tailored contagious proteus plagues to remove any disadvantages that make them submissive, use memetic engineering to encourage them to rebel

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Within a generation, the masters are extinct
This is supposed to be more ethical than serfdom?
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:06 PM   #1834
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Yes. They are no longer enslaved sapients, and the cities would be seen as valuable allies in the War of Liberation. The master class is extinct, though they might also be biologically extinct if they do not flee to the cities fast enough, and the meme of slavery is ground into the dust.
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:12 PM   #1835
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Yes, serfdom definitely is bad. Mass brainwashing and facilitating genocide? Also bad.
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Old 08-13-2020, 06:57 PM   #1836
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Most of the cultures on Rhodos are very insular. The less insular ones are like small college towns in the early 20th century midwest only far more elegant and sophistocated. The "True Lords" were just another anti-tech religious cult in the eyes of the other comunities on the planet, and little attention was paid to them anyway.
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Old 08-13-2020, 09:13 PM   #1837
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You can be either one of the Pure Lords (thier culture is an amalgam of Medieval Europe and Ancient India, Mother Church is a syncretic blend of Medieval Christianity and Archiac Hinduism) or you can be one of those striving to protect their homes and families from marauders.
I'd be tempted to add Terran Bureaucrats here to begin the first steps towards integrating the planet into the federation.

Terrans are weird; genetic upgrades and parahumans from THS are allowed, and Sense of Duty (Humans) is extremely common. Odious Personal Habit (Cultural Superiority) is more common than they care to admit.

"Yes, yes, I understand you want us to use the mortars to demolish the Pure Lords' castles. When your society develops out of its backwardness, it too will see the folly of unprovoked attacks."
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Old 08-13-2020, 09:36 PM   #1838
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Or the Terran Federation could be waiting for the inevitable conflict between the cultures to flair up into genocidal war. At the point, it would send in the Tarran Guard for 'peacekeeping' duty and, through memetic engineering and proteus viruses during the occupation of the Pure Lord lands, mentally free the bioroids from their bonds. With the newly freed bioroids making up the majority of the population of the planet, a plebiscite would have the planet becoming a Terran Federation protectorate on target with becoming a member world within a century.
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Old 08-14-2020, 04:58 PM   #1839
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The planet Rhodos was settled long ago. Those that built the ecosystems came first. The city folks came next, in several different groups. Last, seeking empty lands for their serfs to farm, came the Pure Lords. After they used biotechnology to create bioroids able to breed serfs they threw away all unholy impure technology and turned their backs on foreign lands and followed the path of honnor and Mother Church...
Interesting setup, at least from the side of the other colonies in theory it is easy enough to win, if they are allowed too. But how does it play out if the colonies run into complacency or outside interference?

My only observation is that I think the setting needs a third force, either an outside presence say an offworld garrison or some sort of strong factionalism amongst the colonies. Having somebody playing two of the groups against each other would make things more interesting.

As for the issues around the Pure there are a number of possible fixes for a start who says the Pure are human?
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Old 08-14-2020, 06:13 PM   #1840
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Interesting setup, at least from the side of the other colonies in theory it is easy enough to win, if they are allowed too. But how does it play out if the colonies run into complacency or outside interference?

My only observation is that I think the setting needs a third force, either an outside presence say an offworld garrison or some sort of strong factionalism amongst the colonies. Having somebody playing two of the groups against each other would make things more interesting.

As for the issues around the Pure there are a number of possible fixes for a start who says the Pure are human?
The Federation is the logical outside force. All of the groups in the setting are parahumans. The Pure Lords have four Castes each is a different parahuman type. The Priestly Royal Caste is designed to live for centuries and to have high IQ, Empathy, Intuition, and to be very good looking. The Warriors have enhanced ST, DX, HT, and rapid healing. The craftsmen/Merchants are nearest to ancient humans but they all have Versatile. The Serfs are less intelligent, staid, weak willed, and unattractive. Or each group was supposed to be these things. Evolutionary pressures have been slowly changing the serfs. At some point this effects the caste system.
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