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Old 11-13-2014, 07:47 PM   #21
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Default Re: Folding Shovel / Entrenching Tool - quality rules and customization?

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You're living the stereotype with this sharpened-shovel obsession, vicky. It's very eastern slav of you...
Hey, sharpened shovels are cool.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:49 PM   #22
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Personally, I wouldn't allow Expensive for non-combat tools or other equipment and Very Fine + Fine (Balanced) for weapons on the other hand.

The alterations that you make to a tool to optimise it to be the best possible shovel or pick for the lighest weight are simply not the same to make it the best possible weapon for its weight.

It's perfectly reasonable for the GM to say that a given tool is either a Fine (Balanced) weapon or its a very good tool.

Theres's a reason why 'the best' real-life combat knives are not all the same types, but actually vary by what you want the knife for. The best cutting tool is not the same as the best weapon for stealthy sentry removal.
What if it was an award? Wells-fargo used to give custom shotguns to it's best escort riders.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:51 PM   #23
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What if it was an award? Wells-fargo used to give custom shotguns to it's best escort riders.
Even so, the best possible balance is generally some configuration that sacrifices non-combat utility.

If given a choice, the best weapon (as per weapon statistics) is generally not one that doesn't look like a weapon. In general, an expert can tell the difference between a well-balanced weapon and a harmless tool.
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Old 11-14-2014, 06:07 AM   #24
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Tool maybe, but no sturdy object is truly harmless.
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