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02-08-2017, 01:18 AM | #21 |
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Re: Custody of federal prisoners convicted at court martial or unfit for trial
The MI officer wouldn't be there to interrogate her just to make sure that the interrogation didn't violate her rights as a military personnel prisoner and didn't cover stuff that was classified outside the scope of the current investigation. If they learn anything that would fall under the incidental exception for gathering information I'd think.
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dcarson is exactly right about the MI officer's role at the interview. |
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02-08-2017, 06:26 AM | #23 |
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Does the conspiracy own any Judges? They might be able to get the guy out on Bench Warrant
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02-08-2017, 07:38 AM | #24 |
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My experience with state prison is that various judges issue bench warrants all the time for offenders, once it is validated, the offender is dressed in court clothes (not a prison uniform), restrained, and two hand picked veteran COs that are well trusted, one of which is armed, take him in a prison van to the court. Technically the court can keep the COs with the offender in which case they will stay with him and keep guarding him, but usually the court will take the offender. Once he is no longer the state prisons offender, the state prison will not be concerned with him very much but will periodically send letters or call to ask what happened and are they getting him back.
Once the court has the offender, he is their problem. He may go into county jail or even be released on bond until they are done with him. |
02-08-2017, 12:57 PM | #25 | |
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The odds are decent that there were people in the US Attorney's office in the Eastern District of North Carolina who agreed to keep certain information low-key, 'for the good of the nation', back in 2000. If one of them were a judge now, they might be influenced by someone who knows the full story.
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There were these two military men suspected or convicted of crimes who orchestrated an escape from the base (outlying part of Camp Mackall, NC) where the Project Jade Serenity experiments were set, but two deserters/escaped prisoners, even violent, murdering ones, seemed like a problem a coterie of conspirational officers within the US Army, DARPA or DOD could solve. Some of the people who were covering up crimes might have planned to ensure that the deserters remained uncaught (and thus silent) or that whenever the deserters were ultimately caught, they would elect to take a plea bargain that included not airing old dirty laundry about the experiments in return for backing off from the death penalty. Hell, there might have been some people afraid enough of them talking who were considering arranging that when they were caught, they weren't brought in alive. It was only after evidence began to come to light that the former Project Jade Serenity test subjects were exhibiting profoundly strange medical issues that things began to change. Some time after that information first became clear to a small group of people with access to widely disparate information sources, some people in the El Paso Intelligence Center (EPIC) put together an intelligence picture that made it imperative to mount a task force to capture the escaped military convicts/deserters in Mexico. The two were by now apparently powerful figures in the drug cartels and were living more or less openly within a certain area near the border. The local authorities seemed thoroughly cowed, subverted or both and the federal police, for some reason, refused to operate in the area. After the FBI, US Marshals, DEA and the CBP and ICE tried and failed to get the Mexican authorities to arrest the two men and several other US citizens allegedly involved in criminal conspiracies in the area, some shadowy figures within high military circles apparently came up with an alternate plan. Colonel Ortiz, who used to be the commanding officer of Raul Vargas, the former Special Forces warrant officer who was now a high-up in the Knights Templars, was authorised to mount an operation where some of Vargas' former comrades-in-arms would approach him with an offer to squash the more serious crimes he was accused in return for him turning himself in to the task force now established to deal with the fall-out of Project Jade Serenity, which was codenamed Onyx Rain. Whether Colonel Ortiz received secret orders to kill Vargas if that approach failed is not known to the PCs. What they were told is that the fall-back plan was capture and rendering back to the US, where he would have been turned over to a law enforcement task force composed of Army CID and CBP/ICE. In any event, Col. Ortiz and his hand-picked team of Special Forces never came back from the mission. They were not killed, however, and intelligence indicates that they are still in the area, but not replying to attempts to contact them. Sherilyn Bell, at the Manhanock Asylum for the Criminally Insane, is Raul Vargas' former girlfriend and the mental health technician who helped him escape from Project Jade Serenity. Onyx Rain believes that she has been in contact with him within the last five years, when Bell managed to get a hold of a cell phone in a security breach at Manhanock. It is possible that Bell may have information that would help to capture Vargas and Onyx Rain is even considering the possibility of using her as an informant or double agent in an operation to do so. Inmate Taylor was a protegé of Col. Ortiz, coming up as a young Ranger in Ortiz's platoon in the 1st Ranger Battalion and going through a modified form of SFQC with him as part of Project Jade Serenity. He also served with every one of the operators who are AWOL in Mexico. Added to that, other personnel involved in Project Jade Serenity who have been questioned have confirmed that (then) SPC Taylor and (then) Pvt. Bell were close friends during the time they spent at Camp Mackall and that he is the most likely person to be able to gain her trust. It's a joint operation, but it may not be a joint operation that is duly authorised. Even if it has full authorisation, it is very likely that some of the things that were told to the political figures at the top about the operation and its goals and methods were... substantially edited.
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02-08-2017, 02:54 PM | #27 | |
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Or you could just go with Camp Seven at Guantanamo Bay... |
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02-08-2017, 04:13 PM | #28 | |
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The Judge Advocate General's Corps does, though. |
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02-08-2017, 06:02 PM | #29 | |
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There were two Army CID agents assigned to the transfer of Inmate Taylor, but given that Manhanock is a highly secure facility with strict rules for who can go there and absolutely no one armed except the tower guards, it would be best if they could wait until the Onyx Rain team is done in there. A joint task force including US Army Counterintelligence, Army CID and plenty of DHS personnel, including federal law enforcement Special Agents (1811), should have legal competence to take custody of Taylor while he awaits processing into a CMU, right? And there is no need for the CID agents involved to be cleared for all aspects of operations that fall under Onyx Rain, is there? *Incidentally, Manhanock appears to be a mental institution equivalent of a CMU.
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Sherilyn Bell was never tried at court martial. Or anywhere, for that matter. A sanity board found her unfit to stand trial in the year 2000, as she was catatonic. A decision was made to defer a general court martial until she was responsive. We aren't sure what happened next. It seems that the sanity board kept signing off on her being unfit for trial, even when she was no longer catatonic (just delusional, manic-depressive, possibly schizophrenic, borderline personality, etc.). It seems she was just quietly buried in a mental health equivalent to a CMU and never had her day in court. Which my character* does not find even a little bit okay. I'm assuming that 17 years after her alleged crime and over 18 years after her enlistment, she is no longer under US Army jurisdiction (unless they were to decide to recall her to duty specifically to be able to court martial her). *I'm not the GM, I'm officially designated the GM's research assistant for worldbuilding plausibility and consistency with the real world (except as he explicitly deviates from it with superpowers and secret supersoldier projects).
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