+1 IQ collar - for my wolf?

[MikMod]

(ITL p94) 'an animal cannot be trained beyond its actual IQ'

But with the magic collar, my wolf's IQ would actually be 7, correct? I mean, wizards can use the +1 IQ item to master higher level spells than their 'natural' or 'base' IQ, so it really does increase IQ, in terms of learning things, right...?

:)

[Chris Rice]

Originally Posted by MikMod

(ITL p94) 'an animal cannot be trained beyond its actual IQ'

But with the magic collar, my wolf's IQ would actually be 7, correct? I mean, wizards can use the +1 IQ item to master higher level spells than their 'natural' or 'base' IQ, so it really does increase IQ, in terms of learning things, right...?

:)

What magic collar are you talking about? Do you mean the Greater Magic Item which enhances Attributes from ITL p161 or something else? If the former, I'm not sure I'd allow it to work on an animal. Even if I did it a very expensive way to make a wolf a little smarter. What would be the point?

[MikMod]

Originally Posted by Chris Rice

What magic collar are you talking about? Do you mean the Greater Magic Item which enhances Attributes from ITL p161 or something else? If the former, I'm not sure I'd allow it to work on an animal. Even if I did it a very expensive way to make a wolf a little smarter. What would be the point?

Yes - the magic item. I'm thinking if it works on animals you could have a trained wolf/bear/etc as almost a character but probably more loyal. I'm thinking a couple of these on some trained bears or tigers could provide some excellent bodyguards for a King or Duke...?

[Chris Rice]

Originally Posted by MikMod

Yes - the magic item. I'm thinking if it works on animals you could have a trained wolf/bear/etc as almost a character but probably more loyal. I'm thinking a couple of these on some trained bears or tigers could provide some excellent bodyguards for a King or Duke...?

I see know reason why not. Could make for an interesting ally. Or perhaps a player could be one of these enhanced animals. 😊

[MikMod]

Originally Posted by Chris Rice

I see know reason why not. Could make for an interesting ally. Or perhaps a player could be one of these enhanced animals. 😊

Hello Iorik Byrnison! :)

[Skarg]

With either animals or humans, attribute enhancing enchantments raises the question what it allows other than a bonus on rolls. Most of the rules that mention it say that it doesn't let you learn talents with prerequisites at the boosted levels, and personally I think that's a good limit to keep (or else, if you really want magic to be able to raise attributes for long-term purposes, make that a more expensive/difficult enchantment).

With such a limit, I think it'd also apply to animals' training/cognition descriptions. That is, the pet gets a higher IQ for making rolls, but doesn't suddenly become able to be trained as if it were a different species. ... Or that would require a more powerful enchantment to be researched / known and used. ... Unless, of course, the GM wants it to be able to do that...

[David Bofinger]

Originally Posted by MikMod

But with the magic collar, my wolf's IQ would actually be 7, correct? I mean, wizards can use the +1 IQ item to master higher level spells than their 'natural' or 'base' IQ, so it really does increase IQ, in terms of learning things, right...?

Animal intelligence is different to person intelligence, see e.g. the definition of intelligence in p16 or the description of the chupacabra on p91. You can increase the IQ of your wolf, giving it IQ 7 on the animal intelligence scale.