[DF] Anyone use the In Nomine cosmology for your DF game?

[b-dog]

I just bought In Nomine Ethereal players guide and it is an interesting book. I like the cosmology where there is an infernal and celestial power struggle (Evil vs. good) and then there is the ethereal which is more or less neutral. The gods from myth and legend are in this catagory of neutral; Zeus, Apollo, Thor, Odin, Orsirus, Set etc. Having a set-up like this would really strengthen the neutral alignment and adds a lot of conflict that is not just good vs evil. Of course DF also has Elder Things too. I am just curious if anyone has set up their game world using this cosmology. If so I would be interested.

I like the idea of having monotheistic religions having absolute morality so that God and his angels are the forces of good while the Devil and his demons are the forces of evil. This leaves a lot of middle ground to Odin and his valkeries which can serve either side or only themselves and makes for a more complicated battle between good and evil. What do you think? Thanks.

[Anders]

I think this lends itself very well to DF. Good clerics, evil clerics and druids. Or you can cobble together something similar to the good clerics' vows with stuff like "be mindful of the balance," "try to mediate in conflicts," or even "make sure everyone eats enough vegetables" (for the God of Health.)

[LoneWolf23k]

I believe there's an online article that reinvents the Archangels and Demon Princes as Fantasy Deities.

But in any case, I highly approve of this concept.

[Archangel Beth]

http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/art...ngs/ind20.html , perchance? O:>

[LoneWolf23k]

Originally Posted by Archangel Beth

http://www.sjgames.com/in-nomine/art...ngs/ind20.html , perchance? O:>

That's it, thanks.

[b-dog]

In any case I really like the cosmology of In Nomine. It is very similar to Ars Magica. I would absolutely love to have some In Nomine/GURPS DF books if possible. I like the idea of having good vs. evil with angels from Heaven and demons from Hell along with the ethereals which are the fairy and beings from myth which are basically neutral and help to hold the balance. Maybe Athena and Orsirus might more likely side with good while Loki, Set and Ares might more likely side with evil but the gods of myth are independant and follow their own desires instead of being completely aligned with good or evil. But as far as bad guys go, Hell is a pretty awesome source of villians with a whole background to explore. Hell would be awesome IMO for evil liches and other dungeon makers to deal with to help stock their dungeons. I am sure the Devil would freely help an evil lich with demons to put in his dungeon for a small price of course.

[Rocket Man]

b-dog, have you checked out GURPS In Nomine yet? It's for Third Edition, so there'd be some tinkering to make it work, but it's a pretty decent guide to running IN's world by GURPS's rules. If you need to "port" some things into a Dungeon Fantasy world, it could be a help.

http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG30-6093

[b-dog]

Originally Posted by Rocket Man

b-dog, have you checked out GURPS In Nomine yet? It's for Third Edition, so there'd be some tinkering to make it work, but it's a pretty decent guide to running IN's world by GURPS's rules. If you need to "port" some things into a Dungeon Fantasy world, it could be a help.

http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG30-6093

No, I don't have that. I just bought the ethereal players guide and thought it would be a cool background for DF. I have GURPS Cabal and I really like this book too and I think a lot of Cabal could be used with GURPS In Nomine. If I just use the rules from the DF series then I can create dungeon adventures with a higher (or lower) purpose. I really like the idea that the gods of myths are neutral though and can do as they please while angels and demons are bound to a more absolute morality.

[Rocket Man]

Originally Posted by b-dog

No, I don't have that. I just bought the ethereal players guide and thought it would be a cool background for DF. I have GURPS Cabal and I really like this book too and I think a lot of Cabal could be used with GURPS In Nomine. If I just use the rules from the DF series then I can create dungeon adventures with a higher (or lower) purpose. I really like the idea that the gods of myths are neutral though and can do as they please while angels and demons are bound to a more absolute morality.

It does make for some entertaining storylines, I agree, especially since the "gods" of In Nomine are generally dream spirits who hit the big time -- and now have to constantly maintain their image in the minds of humanity, or else fade away.

(I also agree that it's a natural mix with GURPS Cabal, a different take on secret supernatural fantasy.)

Let me know how the IN/DF experiment works out for you. And if you get interested in trying out the main In Nomine game itself sometime, drop by the IN forum anytime. We're always ready to welcome another player.

[b-dog]

Originally Posted by Rocket Man

It does make for some entertaining storylines, I agree, especially since the "gods" of In Nomine are generally dream spirits who hit the big time -- and now have to constantly maintain their image in the minds of humanity, or else fade away.

(I also agree that it's a natural mix with GURPS Cabal, a different take on secret supernatural fantasy.)

Let me know how the IN/DF experiment works out for you. And if you get interested in trying out the main In Nomine game itself sometime, drop by the IN forum anytime. We're always ready to welcome another player.

Truth be told, I want to also incorporate a lot of historical GURPS books that I own too. I have quite a few like Egypt, Celtic Myth, Vikings, and Middle Ages. I just bought In Nomine to see how it handles the gods and creatures of myth and I thought it would fit well with historical GURPS books but would also be usable for the good vs. evil stuff in DF too. Of course I will keep Elder Things who exisited long before Heaven and Hell and the Ethereal plane. The Elder Things are the fourth axis. So I have God and his angels as good, the Devil and his demons as evil, Zeus and the Olympic pantheon, Odin and the norse pantheon etc. as neutral and then Elder Things who are the sad truth of the game world that all of Heaven, Hell, the Ethereal Plane and the mortal realm are nothing but food or toys or both.