Overkill on a Mozambique drill

[jacobmuller]

I just want to check I'm doing the "death checks" correctly. Specifically, I'm not sure if the following results in 2 or 3 (although I'll not be surprised to hear I've got something else totally wrong:)) Thanks in advance...

The victim has 12HP and 12HT:
First shot is Vitals for 30 injury = HT roll or die and then HT-5 for Knockdown
Second is Vitals for 24 injury = HT roll or die* and HT-5 for Knockdown.
Assuming you're still alive and conscious, roll vs HT-3 at start of your next turn or fall unconscious.

*Or does the second hit result in Two HT rolls, one for each multiple of HT passed per B419, -1xHP

Roll again each time you suffer injury equal to a further multiple of your HP, whether as a result of one wound or many

There was actually a third shot, brain hit for 56 injury, which made all the above moot, except possibly as a result of an autopsy and an IAD investigation: did the officer pause to check the effect of his first two shots or did he deliberately use unnecessary force, ie did he ignore the evidence of his own eyes or simply not realize how effective his first two shots had been?

10mm Compact ETK: 4d+1 (0.5) pi++; Acc 2; Rng 240/ 2,750; wgt 1.5/0.4; cap 15; ST 10; Bulk -1; $500; Boosted stats 6d pi+; 310/ 3,600.

[Anthony]

This is a case of GURPS not precisely modeling reality, but the rules-correct implementation is:
Hit 1: reduces HP to -18. 1 death check (for passing -12)
Hit 2: reduces HP to -42. 2 death checks (for passing -24 and -36)
Hit 3: reduces HP to -98. Automatic death.

Of course, the Mozambique drill isn't really designed for pistols with the lethality of battle rifles.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Of course, the Mozambique drill isn't really designed for pistols with the lethality of battle rifles.

I was trained to do "failure drills" with the M16/M4 ("varmit round", I know).

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

I was trained to do "failure drills" with the M16/M4 ("varmit round", I know).

I suspect the odds of needing three shots with an M16 is very low, unless of course you don't actually hit the vitals.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Anthony

I suspect the odds of needing three shots with an M16 is very low, unless of course you don't actually hit the vitals.

Which is likely if the target is wearing body armor.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Which is likely if the target is wearing body armor.

Ah, good point.

[HANS]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Of course, the Mozambique drill isn't really designed for pistols with the lethality of battle rifles.

The Moz has become a standard drill for pretty much every close-combat firearm, including pistols, SMGs, and assault rifles (Tactical Shooting, p. 16). You want the other guy to stop being a threat, and that means you want him to go down. There typically is very little time for a cost/benefit analysis ("Was that third shot really necessary?"). Also see Shoot Till Down (Tactical Shooting, p. 16). The final head shot is almost a necessity nowadays, with so many opponents wearing body armour or being high on drugs -- the Moz is not alternatively called "Drugs & Armour Drill" for nothing.

Cheers

HANS

[Verjigorm]

Also, if you use the optional rules from High Tech for bullet injuries, you can't do more than HP damage to the torso. So two shots to the torso won't reliably put someone down fast enough. Popping their brain pan will.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Verjigorm

Also, if you use the optional rules from High Tech for bullet injuries, you can't do more than HP damage to the torso. So two shots to the torso won't reliably put someone down fast enough. Popping their brain pan will.

Even if you shoot torso rather than vitals, almost a third of the time at least one of your bullets will hit vitals anyway.

[Verjigorm]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Even if you shoot torso rather than vitals, almost a third of the time at least one of your bullets will hit vitals anyway.

Well, it's a 1 in 6 chance, and even if you count for two shots, the majority of your shots will not hit the vitals.