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Old 07-18-2016, 02:19 PM   #1
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Default [Sorcery] Touch Only Buff Spells

By default Buff Spells are Self, Touch & Gaze 100yds rage.
Is it "legal" to make a Buff Spell only Self & Touch?

If yes. I would add the modifiers melee R:C (-30%) & No Parry (-5%)
That would bring the cost of a Buff from 12 pts of the basic Buff to 7 pts Touch Only Buff.

What does the Hive-Mind think?
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: [Sorcery] Touch Only Buff Spells

I use the "Touch" modifier when I do Touch only Buff spells. I wouldn't allow Self Only as a modifier - it allows you to neatly bypass the whole "Alternative Abilities" disadvantage since you can just afflict yourself with advantages rather than having them.
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Old 07-18-2016, 02:34 PM   #3
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I use the "Touch" modifier when I do Touch only Buff spells. I wouldn't allow Self Only as a modifier - it allows you to neatly bypass the whole "Alternative Abilities" disadvantage since you can just afflict yourself with advantages rather than having them.
What "touch modifier"?

Also, I did not include any "Self-Only" modifiers above. Self is by default a valid target of a buff spell. As it says in the Sorcery Book p.9:

"Most Buff spells have a range of 100 yards. If the sorcerer casts
a Buff on himself or by touching a willing subject, there are
no rolls required."
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Old 07-18-2016, 03:47 PM   #4
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What "touch modifier"?
Possibly "Melee Attack", page 112 in Basic.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:07 PM   #5
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By default Buff Spells are Self, Touch & Gaze 100yds rage.
Is it "legal" to make a Buff Spell only Self & Touch?

If yes. I would add the modifiers melee R:C (-30%) & No Parry (-5%)
That would bring the cost of a Buff from 12 pts of the basic Buff to 7 pts Touch Only Buff.

What does the Hive-Mind think?
So when you think about spells you touch yourself?

More seriously, if it's Self only there's no need to Touch...so, no.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:54 PM   #6
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So when you think about spells you touch yourself?

More seriously, if it's Self only there's no need to Touch...so, no.
So there is no way to get rid of the ranged part of a Buff spell?
That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:01 PM   #7
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So there is no way to get rid of the ranged part of a Buff spell?
That doesn't make any sense to me.
I think you're conflating some terms here (or perhaps I am). ALL buffing spells can be used on anyone (including the caster). To build a "self only buff" you'd simply take the advantage and create as a spell. So, for example if you have a "Self only Buffing Armor spell" you'd just buy DR with the Sorcery modifier.
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:16 PM   #8
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The Duelling Shield from Codex Duello is done as a Self Only Affliction
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:19 PM   #9
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The Duelling Shield from Codex Duello is done as a Self Only Affliction
That's a fair point - I think I would have done this differently since it would like be cheaper. IF you want a spell like that, Self Only is a -50%. Since basically to have the advantages is only 19 points vs. 27 points, although, with a self-buffing spell you can cast the spell, then switch to another spell and still have the effects. (My notes say this is why I did this, but I didn't really remember until I went back and looked.)
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:02 AM   #10
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I think you're conflating some terms here (or perhaps I am). ALL buffing spells can be used on anyone (including the caster). To build a "self only buff" you'd simply take the advantage and create as a spell. So, for example if you have a "Self only Buffing Armor spell" you'd just buy DR with the Sorcery modifier.
No. I think you misunderstood me.
I want to eliminate the ranged part of the buff spells.
But I also want the caster to be able to cast it on others but only by touching not ranged.
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