07-08-2019, 02:08 AM | #1 |
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Using an Illusion's Senses
So you can use your illusion's senses to detect things you can't sense.
What if the illusion has senses you don't? Can you benefit from those? Like a bat's sonar, a cat's low-light vision, a wolf's sense of smell? If you had a race with 'dark vision' could you use it to see in the dark? |
07-08-2019, 02:43 AM | #2 | |
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If you could 'see in the dark' then you would see what you thought was there, not what was really there. It gets weird. |
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07-08-2019, 03:17 AM | #3 | |
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My take would be "yes". Mosquito images are favorites for spying, btw -- they're great for going under doors and through keyholes. |
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07-08-2019, 04:16 AM | #4 |
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Re: Using an Illusion's Senses
Hummm...I could have sworn that you could, but now that I'm trying to hunt it down, I can't find it (nor can I find the rules about summoned creatures and their senses...).
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07-08-2019, 05:33 AM | #5 |
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Re: Using an Illusion's Senses
ITL p137, "A wizard can see through the eyes of the summoned beings, images, or illusions brought by his Creation spells. If he has Mage Sight, his creations have it too."
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07-08-2019, 06:52 AM | #6 |
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Re: Using an Illusion's Senses
And he can see things he doesn't know about? New information can be gained using a pair of illusory eyes? I thought you couldn't do that. After all, the new Scout spell would be completely pointless, you'd just run up an image every time, with no 'mammal only' restrictions...
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07-08-2019, 08:01 AM | #7 | |
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07-08-2019, 08:21 AM | #8 | |
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For instance, if an illusion moves, everyone looking will see it move in the same way -- it's not subjective. The viewers all see the same thing -- an illusion of a wolf appears as a wolf to all of the viewers. If the caster specifies that it's a purple wolf, everyone will see a purple wolf (and then, if they saw it appear, they will all get a chance to disbelieve it). There's nothing in the text to imply that they don't all see the exact same wolf, nothing implies there's any subjectivity at all, except in the case of extraordinary things the illusion might do (like if it's an illusion of a famous hero). Illusions are also not "mass hypnosis" in the sense that you aren't casting a spell on each of the viewers -- it doesn't matter how far away they are. People newly entering the scene will see an existing illusion even though they weren't present for the casting. Someone far away looking through a telescope would see the illusion (and have a chance to disbelieve it). Also, p139 says that illusions of fire, wall, shadow, handheld weapons, and rope "behave like the real thing". I.e. an illusion of fire can actually burn your clothing. An illusionary knife can cut through a rope. The text says these kinds of illusion have somehow acquired extra power. |
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07-08-2019, 08:26 AM | #9 | |
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Walls are as expensive or more expensive than illusions, btw, so why anyone would learn and use them instead of illusions is beyond me. Who disbelieves a wall? Last edited by zot; 07-08-2019 at 08:30 AM. Reason: added comment about walls |
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07-08-2019, 09:46 AM | #10 |
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Location: London, UK
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