09-28-2018, 10:30 AM | #11 | |
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
Quote:
Alternatively of course you set the action in a real world oppressive regime. North Korea. Uzbekistan. Egypt. But that would make it really hard to make a complete set of heroes and villains who fit into the setting when you aren't from there. Alternatively you could just make the premiere super team of the country just...corrupt. The national government is not all that oppressive in itself but either the superheroes are secretly committing plausibly deniable crimes, or are openly out of control and too powerful to rein in. In either case the "revolutionaries" aren't out to overthrow the nominal government but rather the regime they want to overthrow is that of the "superheroes" themselves. https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP._...IwHaEK&pid=Api http://nodeka.gamers411.net/static-d...fanart/488.jpg |
|
09-28-2018, 12:54 PM | #12 |
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Yukon, OK
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
I played a Champions character who I ported into my GURPS Supers setting as an NPC that was a hero of Green Peace but also an international terrorist.
Hes a killer whale with extreme hydrokinesis and weaker levels of TK that attacks whaling ships and takes waste dumped into the ocean and plops it back on land. Another less known and more controversial guy is a teenager that assaults and even kills cops accused of racist shootings. Info redacted as I may use him in an upcoming game.
__________________
My GURPS publications GURPS Powers: Totem and Nature Spirits; GURPS Template Toolkit 4: Spirits; Pyramid articles. Buying them lets us know you want more! My GURPS fan contribution and blog: REFPLace GURPS Landing Page My List of GURPS You Tube videos (plus a few other useful items) My GURPS Wiki entries |
09-28-2018, 01:06 PM | #13 |
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
Does it occur to posters on this thread that a superhero might be revolutionary by accident? The hero of "To Kill a Mockingbird,"Atticus Finch was never meant to be seen as either a man free of racism or a radical challenging Jim Crow in the South. He was simply s decent man warped by the society he lived in but striving to be just within his limitations. But his actually conservative actions had radical implications.
Picture right of center man with superpowers that allowed him to create nexus gates to worlds humans can live on. He decides to set up an agency to allow refugees the chance to resettle on worlds of their own. He finances his project by selling real estate on still other worlds to anyone who wants to buy. He sets up refugee camps and offers homesteading equipment either at low prices or free depending on circumstance. His actions would seem laudable and middle of the road. Myself, I'd defend such a course of action as moral and worthwhile. However, any mass movement of people changes the society left behind. If an African nation that had spent the time since independence fighting over which of two ethnic groups shall rule suddenly gains a solution. Mainly that group B the smaller of the two will leave for another planet and group A gets the nation left behind. Then that nation will undergo radical change simply because it has a total change of internal politics. Group A virtues and flaws with define that nation entirely. Also, since the infighting is over, Group A has the option of expansion and/or interference with their neighbors. Just setting up alternative societies that follow new paths and thus show that certain political ideas might work transforms the older societies the founders of the new societies left. That the USA strove to remain a democracy and tried throughout the 19th and 20th centuries to be a better democracy was a constant irritant to European conservatives. Many 19th and 20th century European conservatives take largely pointless swipes at the USA for seemingly no reason. But the reason was simply that the USA was always visible as an alternative. Because superheroes would always by their very existence challenge the status quo, they would always have radical implications. These implications could be either right or left wing but they'd never be neutral.
__________________
Per Ardua Per Astra! Ancora Imparo |
09-28-2018, 01:40 PM | #14 | |
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
Quote:
But that's not the kind of revolution the original question was asking about. The job of opposing Valence and the Clone Arranger...if anyone felt that was needed...would fall to lawyers and politicians, and possibly shadowy cabals out to steal the capability for their own exclusive use. Super patriots in tights would not be relevant because neither of them would be threatening the national government. (In case you were wondering the capacity limit derives from the facts that Valence will get hemorrhages if he turns out too much valencium without resting and producing one of the Clone Arranger's life insurance policies requires hours of work from a highly skilled telepath and trying to copy his telepath...well it didn't turn out well There were feedback issues.) |
|
09-28-2018, 02:30 PM | #15 |
Join Date: Feb 2016
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
One possible scenario would be Native American supers who would use their powers to regain a measure of the land stolen from their ancestors through treaty violations in the USA, Mexico, and Canada. Even if they were just using their powers to educate the common people on the truth behind the suffering of their people, it would be highly inconvenient for the governments involved to even return ten percent of the land that was involved in treaty violations, so there would be an economic incentive for governments to allow supervillians to 'take steps' to 'deal' with the issue quietly. Of course, with supers, things are rarely quiet, and superheroes could quickly be labeled as terrorists when they defend themselves against lethal attacks.
|
09-28-2018, 06:19 PM | #16 |
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Virginia
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
Try this idea. Picture a super, we'll call her Utopia, her power is a blend of Affliction and Empathy. She can cause masses of people to see the other person's point of view. She can also make people analyze whether or not they are being fair.
She doesn't always change people's minds. However, younger people and children exposed to her develope both Empathy and the habit of trying to respectfully figure out the other person's viewpoint.
__________________
Per Ardua Per Astra! Ancora Imparo |
09-28-2018, 06:56 PM | #17 |
Join Date: Mar 2008
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
There are early Superman stories that can easily be stolen for this, http://www.cracked.com/article_20069...o-be-dick.html
|
09-28-2018, 08:40 PM | #18 | ||
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Snoopy's basement
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
Quote:
Quote:
Last edited by Donny Brook; 09-28-2018 at 08:46 PM. |
||
09-29-2018, 12:43 AM | #19 |
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ronneby, Sweden
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
X-Men is this depending on the writer. It's pretty prominent for Cyclops' faction from say Utopia until he dies.
|
09-29-2018, 08:48 AM | #20 |
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lawrence, KS
|
Re: Revolutionary Supers
It also occurs to me that this goes back to the proto-superhero day’s. Zoroaster is exactly what the OP asks for.
__________________
Bill Stoddard I don't think we're in Oz any more. |
Tags |
supers |
|
|