07-20-2011, 05:45 PM | #11 | |
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07-20-2011, 06:02 PM | #12 | |
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Anecdotally I've done some running wearing a mail hauberk and in full battle rattle with a backpack on, it gets pretty exhausting. Running with armor on while wearing combat boots is also noticeably harder than while wearing running shoes. When we make sugggestions for PTing in armor we tend to recommend that people only run with the armor over PT gear and that they don't run armor while wearing combat boots if running alone because individual perception of exhaustion while wearing armor is often deceptively low and people often overdo it unknowingly. All anecdotal of course. |
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07-20-2011, 06:33 PM | #13 | |
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An example of what I'm talking about. http://i52.tinypic.com/5wxgu0.jpg EDIT: Dan Howard got to it before I did, but it's an important point. The concept of a soldier marching into battle wearing plate from head to toe isn't historically accurate. We're either talking about mounted knights wearing full plate or foot soldiers wearing partial plate, but it's not really fair to talk about someone wearing 50kg of armor walking around to fight. Last edited by Novembermike; 07-20-2011 at 06:58 PM. |
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07-21-2011, 03:00 PM | #14 | |
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07-21-2011, 03:09 PM | #15 | |
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07-21-2011, 03:44 PM | #16 |
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Re: [LT] Interesting study on the effects of wearing heavy armor
Mike Loads had one of his trainees fight in plate to see how long he would last.
Here is the Video. Nice shows Weapons that Made Britain.
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07-21-2011, 03:55 PM | #17 |
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Re: [LT] Interesting study on the effects of wearing heavy armor
TL4 Plate Torso(looks like it has a blackplate, but if not, it's a breastplate), I'd be happy with
Cuirass(chest, back and front, not groin, medium plate, DR6): 15lbs, $1875 Cuisses(Abdomen and thighs, Segmented medium plate plate DR4): 16.8lbs, $630 Spaulders(Shoulders, Segmented Medium plate, DR4): 2.4lbs, $90 Entire suit weight, cost: 34.2lbs, $2,595. Worn over an Arming Garment, that likely has mail voicders in the groin, knees and elbows. Protects the Chest(9-10 hit location) with DR6 front and back, the arm with DR4 with a 1-6 chance, the legs and groin with DR4, on a 5 or 6 for the legs. If the suit were hardened, one could make the segmented plate from Hardened Steel, and have DR4, but save 5.3 lbs for the cuisses. The helmet could be hardened, and fluted, with a brim to protect the face, but is otherwise a bascinet.
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07-21-2011, 09:16 PM | #18 | |
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Here's an example from a wood block: http://i52.tinypic.com/24w9g04.jpg |
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08-06-2011, 08:00 PM | #19 | |
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Just as an example of a data point, I weighed 5 pairs of my shoes on a kitchen scale which was way more accurate than it needed to be, and rounding to the nearest ounce I get the following: Slippers (Reef) 1 lbs 2 oz Running Shoes (Nike Free) 1 lbs 3 oz Shoes (corfram) 2 lbs Shoes (leather) 3 lbs Boots (Steel Toed) 5 lbs |
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08-06-2011, 08:04 PM | #20 |
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Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: [LT] Interesting study on the effects of wearing heavy armor
They don't slow you down as much as a twisted ankle. Hikers wear boots too. Also, if you don't know that you're going through dry terrain, wet shoes are bad, so you want at least proof against puddles and other incidental wetness, though you don't necessarily need galoshes.
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