11-20-2010, 09:19 AM | #11 | |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
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11-20-2010, 01:06 PM | #12 |
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11-20-2010, 11:08 PM | #13 | |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
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See Gunpowder and Galleys by Guilmartin
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11-21-2010, 08:18 AM | #14 |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
The problem with anythng fire is that it poses as much a risk to the enmy ship as it does to your own, if not more. On age of sail ship both fire and powder were practically fortified from the rest of the ship because of the danger it posed. Likewise when it's being used you need to ensure that it's protected enough that being pelted with arrows/shot/whatever doesnt set your own ship on fire (things become increadily difficult when you have people trying to hurt you).
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11-21-2010, 08:22 AM | #15 | |
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11-21-2010, 01:57 PM | #16 |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
Biremes and Triremes were primarily Ramming ships,and would attempt to "pull out" after ramming(unless fighting same ship class),due low number of combatants(10-20) on them.Trireme II
While Quadriremes and Quinqiremes were primarily boarders(regardless having Rams),due high number of combatants(80-200). Some bigger ships had catapults/balistaes,but they were not very effective weapon-systems. Than,transition to Gallies happens Dromon,Venetian galleys(cca 1500 y)...etc),where ram was rised above water to act as "boarding bridge". Also early guns were implemented as "oneshoot weapons" on those galleys(right before ramming). Than,comes battle of Lepant with first "broadside"(in very lose terms;incorect historically) ships made specifically fior that battle: Galleases. which were actually converted merchant galleys. Than ,rapidly(considering rest of evolution of ships),in several decades comes transition to Sailing broadside ships,and thus "Age of Sail" begins. First with Galleons/Caravels...
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11-21-2010, 07:37 PM | #17 | |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
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11-21-2010, 10:32 PM | #18 | |
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11-22-2010, 06:30 AM | #19 | |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
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Nigel Tranter described the tactic quite graphically in his novel The Lord of The Isles.
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11-22-2010, 07:46 AM | #20 |
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Re: Ship warfare before cannons
...well,... or in the back by the oar of the crewman sitting behind him.
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