GURPS After the End 1: Wastelanders

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Celti

Uh, "drop all fractions" is functionally equivalent to "round down", it's just changing the order of operations. Same net result.

No, drop all fractions produces a different result than rounding down.
Dropping all fractions is rounding towards zero, as opposed to the towards Negative Infinity rounding of 'down'. (Really, it would be more clear if they just always said towards what to round, since IIRC some schools teach that dropping the fractions from -5½ results in -6.)

[chimchim]

Just got this and im impressed. Cant wait for ate 2. I going to use this with time of the zombies from zombies day one in my next ftf campaign.

[scc]

OK, what role did Cthulhu etl play in bringing about The End? The reason I asked is that AtE is set at least 40 years after The End, yet I get the vibe that there are still people around who went to school BtE, most importantly the PCs. The problem is that these people would generally be 60 or more by now. There's also the problem that there seems to be a LOT of stuff to loot. Neither of these facts is consistent with 40 years or more having passed.

If however those 40 years date from when a planet wide war BEGAN with it only ending 20 years ago, things make a bit more sense, especially if the war was everyone v. everyone. I figure that as the war dragged on the general TL went down and eventually people lacked the ability to project power across large bodies of water, so you'd have Mexico and Canada fighting against the US and so. The war ended because society collapsed due to so much damage.

And Cthulhu waking up is said to bring about that sort of planet wide madness, right?

[Celti]

Originally Posted by scc

yet I get the vibe that there are still people around who went to school BtE, most importantly the PCs.

Where do you get that vibe? It's almost explicitly spelled out exactly the opposite, the PCs are supposed to be the fresh young minds of the latest generation, firmly detached from the world Before The End.

[Minuteman37]

Originally Posted by scc

OK, what role did Cthulhu etl play in bringing about The End? The reason I asked is that AtE is set at least 40 years after The End, yet I get the vibe that there are still people around who went to school BtE, most importantly the PCs. The problem is that these people would generally be 60 or more by now. There's also the problem that there seems to be a LOT of stuff to loot. Neither of these facts is consistent with 40 years or more having passed.

If however those 40 years date from when a planet wide war BEGAN with it only ending 20 years ago, things make a bit more sense, especially if the war was everyone v. everyone. I figure that as the war dragged on the general TL went down and eventually people lacked the ability to project power across large bodies of water, so you'd have Mexico and Canada fighting against the US and so. The war ended because society collapsed due to so much damage.

And Cthulhu waking up is said to bring about that sort of planet wide madness, right?

This is going to vary from apocalypse to apocalypse, but if the end was nuclear in nature. Many of those 40 years were spent in shelters waiting for things to cool down.

[scc]

OK, some are better then others here are the things that get to me the most:

1. The lack of illitracy as an option
2. The Doc and Techie templates, both of these are the sorts of occupations that require large amounts of book learning
3. The Nomad or anything mention of finding an intact BtE vehicle
4. The primacy of guns, they would be powerful tools if you have them, but that's unlikely.

Now those last two can be mitigated if the concept is that your character stumbled across the item in something that approaches climate controlled storage and the first two if the PCs come from a settlement large and stable enough to have a school, but that's not really AtE.

[Minuteman37]

Originally Posted by scc

The primacy of guns, they would be powerful tools if you have them, but

Do you have any idea how much those cost?!?!?!

A Browning 9mm pistol would set me back 13 character points and that's not even counting ammo!

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Minuteman37

Do you have any idea how much those cost?!?!?!

A Browning 9mm pistol would set me back 13 character points and that's not even counting ammo!

You probably want something like Winchester M1873 or Springfield M1903 if you're feeling rich, not a wonder pistol. Also, what Browning 9mm are we talking about?

[PK]

Originally Posted by Minuteman37

Do you have any idea how much those cost?!?!?!

A Browning 9mm pistol would set me back 13 character points and that's not even counting ammo!

2.24 character points for a cheap TL6 9mm by my math. $350 x 4 x 0.4 = $560.

[scc]

Originally Posted by Minuteman37

Do you have any idea how much those cost?!?!?!

A Browning 9mm pistol would set me back 13 character points and that's not even counting ammo!

And yet they're still given equal or more time/space/points on the sample builds when they should probably be single point background skills