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Old 09-24-2013, 12:49 PM   #1
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If a monster says it is +2 against elves, and you and your helper are both elves, does the monster get +2 for each of you?

I originally thought so, but reading through the Munchkin Fu rules, under asking for help, it says that Hong Kong Cong is a +4 if a Samurai helps you, unless you are also a Samurai and his strength had already been increased.

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
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Yeah, monsters don't get the bonus against one thing twice, even if both players in the combat are that thing. However, if the monster got +2 against Elves and +2 against Dwarves, then it would be +4 against an Elf and a Dwarf.

I thought the first case was covered in the FAQ, but I couldn't find it. The second is covered, and confirms what I said.

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Q. Do combat bonuses that monsters receive against Races or Classes stack? For example, if a monster gets +4 against Dwarves and +4 against Elves and I'm a half-Dwarf/half-Elf, does that monster get +8 in combat against me?
A. Unless it says otherwise on the card itself, monster combat bonuses do stack. This means that the above monster would be a +8. (Fair warning: this is a change from previous discussions, but it IS the official ruling henceforth.)

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Old 09-24-2013, 01:32 PM   #3
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I thought the first case was covered in the FAQ, but I couldn't find it.
That's because it's explicitly stated in the rules, in the same section of the Munchkin rules as was referred to in the Munchkin Fu rules by the OP. . .

But, here's the Munchkin version of things:

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But if you are facing the Drooling Slime and an Elf helps you, the monster’s combat strength is increased by 4 (unless you, too, are an Elf and the monster’s combat strength has already been increased).
So the general ruling is that a Monster's bonus against a thing only ever gets counted once unless it very explicitly says otherwise (a bonus per Elf, for example). Hence, as was stated before, a +2 against Dwarves and Elves is treated as +2 against Dwarves, +2 against Elves, and the monster would be +4 against a Dwarf and an Elf, or a Half-Breed Dwarf-Elf, but only +2 against two Dwarves or two Elves.
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:34 PM   #4
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Yeah, monsters don't get the bonus against one thing twice, even if both players in the combat are that thing. However, if the monster got +2 against Elves and +2 against Dwarves, then it would be +4 against an Elf and a Dwarf.

I thought the first case was covered in the FAQ, but I couldn't find it. The second is covered, and confirms what I said.
Ok, thanks!
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