Realm Magic and spell magic

[Drakyrias]

I'm currently running a supers game which will involve several practitioners of magic that use varying styles.

I'm curious how Realm Magic overlaps with standard spell magic.

[Refplace]

I find Realm magic to be more powerful but the spell design rules are kind of scattered around.

[Drakyrias]

Originally Posted by Refplace

I find Realm magic to be more powerful but the spell design rules are kind of scattered around.

More trying to get a grasp on direct spell vs effect interactions, i.e.: Fiery blast vs counterspell, or even what analyze magic spell would come up with on some realm magic effects.

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by Drakyrias

More trying to get a grasp on direct spell vs effect interactions, i.e.: Fiery blast vs counterspell, or even what analyze magic spell would come up with on some realm magic effects.

Ah.
This is really personal taste and interpretation but here are my thoughts.
College Analyze Magic vs. RPM should tell you the basics, more if you have the right version of Thaumatology. I allow defaults between Thaumatology traditions.
RPM vs, College Sense Magic pretty much the same as above.

College Counterspell vs. RPM always fails since it requires you know the spell.
I dont like that limitation anyway and have my own ideas on countermagic and mage dueling. However that is how I interpret RAW.
RPM Magic Weaken Magic vs. College Magic: Should work but costs need to be eyeballed.

[Kelly Pedersen]

Originally Posted by Refplace

College Counterspell vs. RPM always fails since it requires you know the spell.

Personally I'd be lenient in this case and let Counterspell work on a Realm effect that closely matched any spell you knew. So if someone is using the Realm of Fire to create a ball of fire that they then throw at you for damage, you'd be okay if you knew Counterspell and Fireball. But if they were shaping up a patch of flames that then moved about the battlefield as they directed, you'd probably be out of luck.

[Drakyrias]

New question, since I use 3rd edition, how problematic is it to incorporate Realm Magic to 3rd ed?

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Kelly Pedersen

But if they were shaping up a patch of flames that then moved about the battlefield as they directed, you'd probably be out of luck.

That's Shape Fire which of course is a prereq for Fireball.

800 spells might not b infinity but it's a relatively large number conceptually. You're not going to find Real Magic users with infinite imagination anyway.