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11-13-2010, 07:43 PM | #32 |
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Not as popularly presented in fiction, no.
Their individual combat prowess wasn't what distinguished them. Group tactics and familiarity with real warfare was. Call them hobgoblins in D&D terms.
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11-13-2010, 07:49 PM | #33 | |
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Cortez and his Spaniards were actually more like ruthless, organized, smart, and ultimately succesful D&D adventurers. Think about it: gold, glory, and God! Treasure, XP, and alignment? :) Loot the evil temple of the heart-rippers. Kill them and take all their stuff. Get rich or die trying! |
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11-13-2010, 08:05 PM | #34 |
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When you think about it, the Conqistadores were amazingly similiar to your Classic D&D Adventuring Group....
Replete with large amounts of cannon-fodder...er....hirelings. :)
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11-14-2010, 12:47 AM | #35 | |
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combine Warrior race a la Klingon with a spartan or janissarie upbringing and a sense of art that is more on the rugged side?
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11-14-2010, 04:06 AM | #36 |
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Personally, I find the ST:tNG "honourable warrior race" thing a bit of a cop-out. You can have an antagonist warrior race with coherent motivations without them turning into a bunch of self-obsessed samurai idiots.
The orcs in Banestorm were a bit of a stab at something different (borrowing a bit from C.J.Cherryh's kif, to be honest). A race much concerned with social position and dominance, to whom the ability to destroy something (or someone) is the simplest proof of power over that thing. So advancement is mostly based on the ability to destroy. But cooperation always defeats pure selfish destruction, and controlling without destroying is of course a better route to more reliable power - so the more confident or ambitious leader will gamble on not destroying what he conquers. But he'd better be able to prove his dominance in other ways.
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11-14-2010, 08:51 AM | #38 | |
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More to the point, though, I've heard that Spaniards were perceived as magical when first encountered by Americans: white skin, horses, metal armor, guns, more like demons than orcs. |
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