05-11-2020, 12:44 PM | #11 |
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Re: Stairs
Whether or not being in the higher or lower position on stairs gives some advantage is the question here.
I've done a fair bit of "trained" historical fencing. And while I generally agree that, 'what comes from above defeats what comes from below,' I also don't think it necessarily applies to combat on stairs. We are talking about elevation here, not oberhau v. unterhau. This also applies to "swiping" at someones legs; if they are the closest thing to you, then it's not a "rookie" move. All that aside, I wouldn't bet the farm that being on a lower step was the best idea. I simply think that Senturian raised some interesting points. FWIW, I think that both combatants would probably be disadvantaged to some degree. |
05-11-2020, 02:49 PM | #12 |
Join Date: May 2015
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Re: Stairs
Mainly, to me, "stairs have no effect" seems like an uninteresting missed opportunity to have the game situation matter in an interesting appropriate-seeming way.
FWIW, for slight height advantages as on stairs, GURPS gives an advantage for the higher figure to hit the lower figure's head, and a penalty to hit their legs and feet, and vice versa, and assigns different penalties based on the height measured to one-foot precision, starting at up to two feet. At up to three feet, there's a +1/-1 defense advantage to the higher figure. At up to four feet, the defense advantage rises to +2/-2 and some body parts become unreachable, at up to five feet, +3/-3 (!), at up to 6 feet, only the feet and legs of the higher figure can be reached, and only the lower figure's head can be reached. More height difference and you'd need longer weapons or to get into weird body positions to reach each other. |
05-13-2020, 02:40 AM | #13 | |
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Re: Stairs
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Either way, you start fighting on that terrain there should be some adjustments. The higher figure can always bend or stoop to reach a lower target, but the lower figure cannot make themselves taller no matter how straight they stand. So at the very least I'd give a -1 DX to the lower figure, although that's not enough to be interesting. More fun might be +1 DX for the higher figure, and -2 DX for the lower one.
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05-13-2020, 02:31 PM | #14 |
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Re: Stairs
Yes, and I think "bending" or "stooping" should incur a DX penalty - not a bonus!
How about -1 DX for the higher position and -2 DX for the lower? |
05-13-2020, 10:37 PM | #15 |
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Re: Stairs
Yes I think I like that even better. Awkward footing impedes both fighters.
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