[Basic/Powers] Low or No Signature And Visible

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

Without special enhancements/limitations, it actually seems easy to justify for an illusory power like Invisibility - it bends minds just as Invisibility does without modified Signature.

But what rolls are you giving a penalty to find you with Low Signature? What rolls are forbidden if you take No Signature?

It can't be Hearing rolls to locate you, being quiet or totally silent is the Silence advantage. Or possibly another copy of Invisibility but for Sound instead of Light, if you're one of the people that doesn't like the Silence advantage as written.

It can't be Touch rolls to locate you, that's definitely Insubstantial.

There isn't a I have No Smell/Taste advantage in Basic Set, but I understand there's a build in Thaumatology: Sorcery. Lacking that book, I'd base it on either Invisibility or Silence.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Bruno

But what rolls are you giving a penalty to find you with Low Signature? What rolls are forbidden if you take No Signature?

Rolls to discover the fact that the enemy they've barely found is so hard to find thanks to Invisibility.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Bruno

But what rolls are you giving a penalty to find you with Low Signature? What rolls are forbidden if you take No Signature?

Rolls to detect the invisibility itself. To take an example suppose you have Magic Invisibility with Low Signature. That means that Detect Magic won't work very well on it.

[PK]

Originally Posted by Wavefunction

That makes me wonder how one would build a form of Invisibility where the character can choose who can see him. Perhaps Switchable + Selective Effect?

Just Selective Effect would do it. "I'm invisible to certain people."

[scc]

OK, this is the current version of the Affliction, can anyone see anything wrong with it?

Affliction(No Signature, +20%; Cosmic: Ignores DR (Excludes Absorption, Force Field and Reflection, -20%) +40%; Disadvantage(Lecherousness(15)(Selective Effect, -20%; Accessibility, Caster Only,-20%)) +70%; Always On, -10%; Dissipation -50%; Emanation, -20%; Onset (1 minute), -10%; Power Modifier:Magic, -10%) [18];

[PK]

Yes.

1. Selective Effect is a +20% enhancement, not a limitation.

2. It's a minor point, as they sum to 0%, but I would apply the Accessibility and Selective Effect to the Affliction itself, as the idea is that you're controlling the effect of the attack.

3. Your modifiers are not in alphabetical order. :)

[scc]

I don't know how I missed that on Selective Effect, regardless it's not actually effecting the cost, so minor fix.

I don't think I can, not while Always On is part of the modifiers.

Apart from No Signature they are, Enhancements then Limitations.

Just to double check, what I did with Cosmic is OK, right?

[Dragondog]

Originally Posted by scc

Apart from No Signature they are, Enhancements then Limitations.

But that's just it. In GURPS language, you don't separate enhancements and limitations that way. You put them ALL in the same alphabetized list. Though I would prefer if your way was the official way, as I did it that way too for a long time and it makes things clearer in my opinion.

[scc]

Bugger, I thought you did separate them.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by scc

Bugger, I thought you did separate them.

I do... but I also alphabetize them...