How much would you pay?

[Wayne]

Far too late of course to ask this question but is the $60 kickstarter target too low?

Chaosium is doing bumper business with CoC 7 ed.

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It seems to me (having wasted a sh*tload of money on games that I will never play), that the market is moving from affordable to flashy.

In today's economy, bigger is better. (Without debating the merits of the platforms, where does the money go? iOS vs android, or Rolls Royce vs Ford).

If the kickstarter came out in hardback, limited edition, amazing graphics etc for $200, would I hesitate? Of course not, it would be just like this: Add to shopping cart

[Rick_Smith]

Originally Posted by Wayne

Far too late of course to ask this question but is the $60 kickstarter target too low? ...

Hi Wayne,
I would opt for the lower priced one for two reasons.
-- It is cheaper for me.
-- It is cheaper for new players who might try out TFT, but are not yet fans.

Warm regard, Rick.

[CardDiceian]

Originally Posted by Rick_Smith

Hi Wayne,
I would opt for the lower priced one for two reasons.
-- It is cheaper for me.
-- It is cheaper for new players who might try out TFT, but are not yet fans.

Warm regard, Rick.

Same here.

I'm on a very tight budget, and at the moment may not even be able to dip into my pocket when the game is launched - (which is one of the reasons I want to do as much as I can to promote it in other ways.)

and like Rick says - For newcomers that are not familiar with it, they may be reluctant to drop a large wedge of money on something they don't know about.

Those of us that already have the old books and games are likely buying in more to show support, than actually needing to replace old stuff.

[Shostak]

I'd pay more if the aesthetic and utilitarian quality of the product warranted a higher price.

[JLV]

I think SJGs has done exactly the right thing -- $60 is much more likely to attract new gamers than something like the new Masks of Nyarlathotep at $139 or CoC 7th rules at $169.

Besides, if it does well, then plenty of new stuff will start rolling down the production pipeline, and we'll all have opportunities to pay lots for all the new goodies! ;-)

(And frankly, who am I kidding? I budgeted $250 for this originally, and I strongly suspect that if I can buy multiple copies of both the Legacy Edition AND Melee and Wizard stand alone copies, I'll spend every penny of it doing so -- it's a great (and cheap) way to get more gamers involved!)

[pyratejohn]

Sixty will fit in my budget, but I have seen people on Facebook say "I hope I can afford this."

[Skarg]

A low entry point seems wise.

So does offering nice but also-affordable components (counters, maps) that can be used for both TFT & GURPS. Those could also act like publicity items since if people see games (and Internet postings of pictures of games) with cool battles with physically laid out with affordable but nice-looking cardboard counters no one had to paint by hand, and discussion of how the battle situation was an interesting game unto itself, not a hitpoint-countdown, that could draw people in.

[RobW]

Genius idea yet again Skarg!

Which reminds me,
[HOWITZER]
Does anyone know of quality hex map components, like the paper megahex parts in ITL, but cardboard, plastic, or similar?

The best flat counters I can find, for quality cardstock and art, are in the Dark City Games. Anyone know other pre-printed cardstock flat counters?
[/HOWITZER]

[CJM]

I like the $60 price point. It keeps production cost down which means SJ more likely to be able to fund the kickstarter and allows me too buy multiple copies right off the bat. I want a copy of each for collection purposes and multiple copies for gifts and play. If SJ wants to put out a collectors edition later on I'm cool with that...probably buy that too.

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by CJM

I like the $60 price point. It keeps production cost down

It does no such thing. :-)

It's a bit pedantic, I'll admit, but price (what the customer is willing to pay) and costs of production are not connected unless good discipline and choices are made. I believe there are those with recent experience with that issue on this forum.

I agree that the $50-60 price point is friendly, but that means internal discipline is needed to keep the cost of production to the usual "less than 25% of retail price, ideally less than 20%" rule of thumb for a product meant to go into a distribution channel.