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Old 09-01-2017, 02:49 AM   #1
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Intriguing line in Basic. You can take an IQ 0 Ally of unlimited point value. I can't think of any applications right away. What have you tried?
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Old 09-01-2017, 05:23 AM   #2
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blue stones something-something.

An ally small enough to fit in your pocket that boost everyone within 1y.
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Old 09-01-2017, 05:56 AM   #3
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Biomecha, its in a pyramid article. (3.24). Very useful.
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Old 09-01-2017, 06:30 AM   #4
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The standard application of this is buying a vehicle as an Ally. You give it Compartmentalized Mind (Controls) and it's all good.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:45 AM   #5
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On the other hand, be careful of letting such an Ally become discount super powers. Ask yourself, is this something my Ally can do, or something my Ally allows me to do? If the latter, you should buy the appropriate Advantage with the "Granted by familiar, -40%" limitation.

PK's page on the subject also recommends a house rule that IQ 0 [-200] not be allowed on Allies, and instead be replaced with Mindless [0].
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PK's page on the subject also recommends a house rule that IQ 0 [-200] not be allowed on Allies, and instead be replaced with Mindless [0].
The basic argument seems to be that the vehicle's having IQ 0 is compensated for by its having total immunity to Mind Control, Possession, and the like. But I think I'd like to see a figured cost for the Immunity, instead. And perhaps for Immunity to Pain, which I think comes to 45 points, starting from High Pain Threshold.
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The basic argument seems to be that the vehicle's having IQ 0 is compensated for by its having total immunity to Mind Control, Possession, and the like. But I think I'd like to see a figured cost for the Immunity, instead. And perhaps for Immunity to Pain, which I think comes to 45 points, starting from High Pain Threshold.
Immunity to Pain would be [30], as per Resistant: Immune.
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I used the RAW for this with zero problems. Here is a blog post about it: http://papermenplasticmonster.blogsp...t-allies.html?
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Immunity to Pain would be [30], as per Resistant: Immune.
Yeah, it looks like you're right, since HPT is [10]. I was remembering it as [15].
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Yeah, it looks like you're right, since HPT is [10]. I was remembering it as [15].
Mechanically what would immunity to pain do that HPT doesn't already? Immunity to torture, instead of a bonus, but you can't interrogate an inanimate object anyway. What else?
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