05-24-2009, 10:02 PM | #51 |
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Re: They should really fix that in Cabaret Chicks on Ice!
That's a myth, I believe.
Depending on tin content, bronze can be a much better material than wrought iron for many applications. Only high-quality steel is better than bronze for weapon and armour. Iron replaced bronze due primarily to being cheaper.
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05-24-2009, 11:15 PM | #52 | |
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05-24-2009, 11:16 PM | #53 | |
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05-24-2009, 11:24 PM | #54 |
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Re: They should really fix that in Cabaret Chicks on Ice!
You can see some examples of bronze swords 75-100 cm long here
and here. Bronze broadswords are probably TL 2, but they do exist, and apparently work as well as most TL 2 steel blades.
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Making bronze means using tin. That means importing from the British Isles. That means that you have to not only pay for the expense of shipping, but also give the Phoenicians their cut. Iron ore, by comparison, is everywhere.
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05-25-2009, 01:57 AM | #57 |
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Re: They should really fix that in Cabaret Chicks on Ice!
Not really. Arsenic alloys were only used before tin was widely used and arsenic never appears to have been deliberately added. Analysis of ancient smelting sites in Africa indicate that the level of aresenic in the local ores are the same as the levels of arsenic in finished tools and weapons. Inother words they just smelted anything "green" they could find and kept the best results for weapons and tools. It is a pure fluke that the best ores available at the time contained arsenic.
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05-25-2009, 02:01 AM | #58 |
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You'd better get used to it. CF will apparently be the standard in future publications. Low Tech will definitely be using it.
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05-25-2009, 09:20 AM | #59 | |
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As to concerns that it's over-simplified, I note that additive modifiers were introduced in GURPS Martial Arts and this system is nothing more or less than a more elegant way to present modifiers such as +100% cost or x2 cost. The final result is the same whether you use the system from MA or the Cost Factors. Cost Factors merely avoid the cludgy notations of +400% and such.
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