02-17-2018, 11:52 AM | #51 |
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If I were the game designer, I'd look at all this discussion and stick with the original. Basically, there is no consensus about what limited changes would be good or bad, and most suggestions quickly spin out of control to a bigger, different core system. I suspect you could 'fix' most of what people see as weaknesses by twiddling a bit with the rules for buying talents and leave us with a tight-as-a-drum system of 3 stats.
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02-17-2018, 02:44 PM | #52 |
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02-17-2018, 11:00 PM | #53 | |
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02-18-2018, 12:20 AM | #54 | |
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This is NOT to say, by the way, that your experience is entirely valueless; quite the reverse, actually. Since you've played in a way that was never used by quite a few of us, you undoubtedly have insights into, for example, how adding three new attributes works in actual play, and how it affects the rest of the rules; things that many of us have no way of knowing. Similarly, assuming you more or less used the combat rules as written, your insights there would remain totally valid. No, I can't read, so naturally I never read any Space Gamers, or Interplays, or any of that stuff... Magazine articles contain a lot of variants along the way, most of them written to achieve or support one specific thing. Frankly, I don't consider every magazine article ever written as permanently changing the rules. Since so many of them contradict each other, that way lies madness. Last edited by JLV; 02-18-2018 at 01:52 AM. |
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02-18-2018, 12:26 AM | #55 | |
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I think talents should be purchased separately from attributes points and not tied to IQ by number of talents a person can have. Certainly IQ should dictate which talents the character can learn (don't have IQ10? can't learn IQ10 (or above) talents). To my mind attributes clearly have their own specific advantages, and talents clearly have theirs; if a character chooses to spend his XP developing new skills instead of increasing his basic attributes, then I think he or she ought to be allowed to do precisely that. There isn't any need to hobble either of them by tying them together. Plus it solves attribute bloat/Conan the Wizard quite nicely. |
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02-18-2018, 01:05 AM | #56 |
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So you're saying TFT is the equivalent of "McDonalds" then?
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02-18-2018, 02:28 AM | #57 |
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I suppose I was guilty of some inadvertent exaggeration when I said I never played TFT any other way. What I should have said was, "once I read the article in TSG and implemented the change to 6 attributes, we never played any other way going forward." Nevertheless, it's been amusing to see the Puritans come out of their foxholes. 😂😂😂 |
02-18-2018, 09:16 AM | #58 |
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02-18-2018, 10:14 AM | #59 | |
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However, I will remind you that I have repeatedly stated it's not a question of "puritanism" in any form; instead simply being a question of whether or not someone who, by their own statement, has "never played a TFT campaign any other way" (meaning without using 6 attributes) can contribute meaningfully to a discussion about a specific issue based on only three attributes, and you continue to say that "puritanism" is my primary motivator. Perhaps you should consider that point going forward. |
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02-19-2018, 01:48 AM | #60 | |
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