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Old 01-31-2015, 07:00 AM   #21
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I agree with Flyndaran. Aging is never going to come up in most games. Why charge someone high pain threshold prices for immunity to something comically rare in games?
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:52 AM   #22
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Length of time spent in childhood is a zero point feature. And even Unaging in most games is completely unimportant.
Unaging makes you immune to both natural and unnatural ageing, for comparison:

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Both types of ageing are quite rare, but then again, so is a medusa’s gaze.
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:38 AM   #23
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Rarity of magical aging attacks is very setting dependent.
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Old 12-29-2023, 08:17 PM   #24
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39.6 110 154 198 would this be Lv 1.1 or 1.2?

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Old 12-29-2023, 08:32 PM   #25
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Yes? Exactly? That means they're not part of the breeding population, but are still a drain on resources. That cuts down your reproduction rate.
Elves have relatively little need for a high reproductive rate. If your average age at death is 1000 years (death by accident, homicide, or suicide), then you only need to have 1 birth per 1000 population per year to maintain a stable population. If your birth rate is a mere 14 per 1000 your doubling time will be 50 years, and the world will be buried in elves in a few centuries.
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Old 12-30-2023, 05:13 PM   #26
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I suspect that few elves will reach 1000 anyway; life is too dangerous. Even an unaging species probably tops out an age of 200 to 300, by which time you succumb to a novel disease, an orcish invasion, or riding accident, or something else.
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Old 12-30-2023, 07:44 PM   #27
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I suspect that few elves will reach 1000 anyway; life is too dangerous. Even an unaging species probably tops out an age of 200 to 300, by which time you succumb to a novel disease, an orcish invasion, or riding accident, or something else.
Elves in my fantasy settings tend to become more self-isolating as they age, eventually disappearing from public life altogether. Elf adventurers are almost all rambunctious youths of a couple centuries or less in age.
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Old 12-30-2023, 08:13 PM   #28
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Elves seem to be a radically K-selected population. If they are truly immortal, then you mostly only need new elves when an existing elf dies by accident, suicide, or violence. That could be a very low reproductive rate.
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Elves have relatively little need for a high reproductive rate. If your average age at death is 1000 years (death by accident, homicide, or suicide), then you only need to have 1 birth per 1000 population per year to maintain a stable population. If your birth rate is a mere 14 per 1000 your doubling time will be 50 years, and the world will be buried in elves in a few centuries.
That's an extremely modernly scientific approach for most settings. Not that you're wrong, per se, but...

For 90% of human history, the average number of children birthed by any woman was 10, because you could automatically assume that 60% of your children would die by childhood diseases, violence, & adult diseases. That leaves you with only 4 out of 10 children to take care of you in your old age.

That is a huge factor that usually doesn't come into fantasy worlds or most setting-building, but there clearly was a reason that people historically treated women as nothing more than a womb... 10 children & 6 of them would die... duh...
Of course any woman would feel that was her duty to do nothing but have children & any man would feel that was her only duty & nothing else mattered.

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Length of time spent in childhood is a zero point feature. And even Unaging in most games is completely unimportant.
Yup, mostly pointless...

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Unaging makes you immune to both natural and unnatural ageing...
This a reason to have it cost more than ZERO points.

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I agree with Flyndaran. Aging is never going to come up in most games. Why charge someone high pain threshold prices for immunity to something comically rare in games?
Again...This a reason to have it cost more than ZERO points.

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Rarity of magical aging attacks is very setting dependent.
...This is, again, a reason to have it cost more than ZERO points.
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Old 12-30-2023, 08:47 PM   #29
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\That's an extremely modernly scientific approach for most settings. Not that you're wrong, per se, but...

For 90% of human history, the average number of children birthed by any woman was 10, because you could automatically assume that 60% of your children would die by childhood diseases, violence, & adult diseases. That leaves you with only 4 out of 10 children to take care of you in your old age.
Having children to take care of them in their old age is rarely an elf priority. And elves almost always have access to means of reducing infant mortality.

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But a reason that puts it in the perk to 5 point territory.
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Old 12-30-2023, 08:58 PM   #30
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Elves in my fantasy settings tend to become more self-isolating as they age, eventually disappearing from public life altogether. Elf adventurers are almost all rambunctious youths of a couple centuries or less in age.
That's generally the case in most fantasy settings.

Elves are kind of odd because generally they're depicted as physically maturing as fast as humans do but culture wise, many fantasy settings seem to have elves not be considered adults (in their culture) until they're like 100 or something.

Which did make me think of an elf waiting to be of legal age to get married to a human friend, only for said friend to die of old age.
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