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Old 07-25-2019, 04:38 PM   #1
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Default Gadget with Accessibility (Only when shrunk)

If an advantage that can only be used when shrunk is also a Gadget, should you use the DR and SM based on it at full size or when shrunk, or what?

If it matters, this is a shrinking super with a glider suit.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:45 PM   #2
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Default Re: Gadget with Accessibility (Only when shrunk)

If shrinking is voluntary, that seems to work just like a bunch of Accessibility limitations that come to -10%. So I'd go with that along with any gadget modifiers.

On the other hand, you should think carefully about those modifiers. Maybe someone can take it away from you, but unless they have Shrinking too, they can't USE it after they take it, and that will made the "can be stolen" modifier worth less.

What's its situation when you're not shrunk? Is it as big as you are, and you just can't use it? Is it as big as you are, but invisible and intangible? Is it a tiny dingus that you carry in a pocket or utility belt till you need it?

When is it more likely that someone will try to damage it? When you're fullsized, or when you're shrunk? Do you go around at full size and only shrink when you go into action, or do you appear as a super at reduced size? I'd go with the approach that fits the narrative.

Does shrinking after the suit's weight? Are you banishing 90% of its mass into an alternate dimension, or have you given it a denser molecular structure (TM)? In the former case, it's more fragile when you're tiny; in the latter, it's not.
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Old 07-25-2019, 07:41 PM   #3
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If shrinking is voluntary, that seems to work just like a bunch of Accessibility limitations that come to -10%. So I'd go with that along with any gadget modifiers.
That's exactly what I had thought, and that's the way I did it.
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On the other hand, you should think carefully about those modifiers. Maybe someone can take it away from you, but unless they have Shrinking too, they can't USE it after they take it, and that will made the "can be stolen" modifier worth less.
I hadn't thought about that. It's only 5%, but it does make a few points difference.
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What's its situation when you're not shrunk? Is it as big as you are, and you just can't use it? Is it as big as you are, but invisible and intangible? Is it a tiny dingus that you carry in a pocket or utility belt till you need it?
It's part of an armored suit that I'm simulating with a few other advantages. It's structurally the same, but it's not usable at full size (a concession to basic physics).
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When is it more likely that someone will try to damage it? When you're fullsized, or when you're shrunk? Do you go around at full size and only shrink when you go into action, or do you appear as a super at reduced size? I'd go with the approach that fits the narrative.
His Shrinking has Maximum Duration (10 minutes), so it's not something he can have on constantly. Beyond that, I'm not completely sure.
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Does shrinking after the suit's weight? Are you banishing 90% of its mass into an alternate dimension, or have you given it a denser molecular structure (TM)? In the former case, it's more fragile when you're tiny; in the latter, it's not.
I ended up deciding to give his Shrinking the Full DR enhancement, and I'm giving him gadget-based DR from the suit, so it still retains at least the same strength, if not the same mass. So it's only the SM that matters in this context.
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Old 07-25-2019, 09:10 PM   #4
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I ended up deciding to give his Shrinking the Full DR enhancement, and I'm giving him gadget-based DR from the suit, so it still retains at least the same strength, if not the same mass. So it's only the SM that matters in this context.
Since it's a suit, and he's wearing it, I'm not sure it matters much. If they hit him, they hit his suit, pretty much, right? So it will have the same SM he does in any case. And they're much more likely to hit him at full size then shrunk, I think. You could probably just handwave the SM for "shrunk."
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